Stadia - Google's vision for the future of gaming

Yeah, I don’t think Google serving the data is the issue…

We know. But someone tell that to Google and the media who keep trying to sell this as the “future of gaming” with their negative latency that will work even better than your own PC! I mean they’re hardly going to say “This is just another service so don’t worry if it doesn’t work for you, and by the way we’re really only targeting people in major cities with great internet, which will be 2/3rds of you by 2050!” but that doesn’t mean we can’t mock it.

Simple, just as streaming has all but wiped out music ownership, it’s reasonable to expect that a successful game streaming product will wipe out game ownership, and some of us aren’t exactly looking forward to that.

My guess would be no. Given games are notoriously poor at multi-threading, clock speed rules the roost and hyper-scalers don’t typically deploy the highest clock speed processors. In the hyper-scale world, cores matter more as cores drive density and economics. Could be Stadia will buck the trend, but I doubt it.

If Stadia can deliver mid-range PC gaming performance on a office PC, would it replace gaming PC’s? Probably. That is an irresponsible “if” though.

However, some genres are probably just fine with the network lag. Imagine being able to play a gorgeous version of X-Com or Civilization on a budget PC? Now Stadia makes sense as an “entry” into gaming and a way to game when away from your budget build.

Those are my thoughts anyways, even if Google hasn’t realized what the target market should be.

Yes, and I’m one of those people. But that hasn’t blinded me to the fact that our numbers are shrinking, and drastically so in recent years. There is a vast swath of consumers out there who are intent on the simple act of consuming, without any thought given to wanting to replay the game again later. The “use and dispose” mentality is really coming into its own.

Thus, I predict Stadia will be a resounding success.

Just not with me personally. The only way I’ll even try it out is because I’m curious. If one day a free Stadia game shows up on my YouTube page, yep I’ll hit the Play button and give it a shot. But that’s all. No way I’m contributing any of my own money into this service.

But I’ve given up on trying to convince the hordes of people out there that will eat this stuff up. They seem to be interested only in the latest and coolest tech, and fuck anything that came before.

I sound bitter, don’t I? I’m really not, although I do confess to once telling a bunch of kids to get off my lawn. :)

You know, with a streaming service you can replay a game as many times as you want, just like with Spotify where you can replay a song as many times as you want.

I think he’s referring to all those times you dig out your physical media 15 years later to play your games.

Which hardly anyone ever actually does. But hey, in principle you can if you want. If you can find a way to make your ancient game run on your modern pc. But in principle, yes.

Not just physical media; we’ve still got GOG.

Define “hardly anyone”. Relative to gamers in general, it’s a smaller percentage, yes.

GOG takes care of us hardly anyones pretty well.
And if they ever disappear, I’ve still got my games I got from them.

Along with a few vintage (and still functioning) gaming rigs going back to my first 486. And I will concede that hardly anyone goes quite that far. :)

(A very small number of) Games disappear from sale on online services all the time that are much younger than that.

“wine game.exe” usually works pretty well for me. Google, with it’s ever increasing number of deprecated APIs, has no reason to keep supporting old enough games, leaving you with nothing that you can do about it. And copying Apple shitiness once again, cough.

I had a similar reaction when Steam came out. I wanted to own my games, have the ability to resell them, etc. Shrug.

If the experience is good and the price is right, I’ll stream games too. So will you.

I love how the people who want this to succeed tell us that we will stream our games.

No. I won’t. It’s a bridge too far. There’s no way I could be less interested in this bullshit attempt to control ownership of videogames. If this is “TEH FUTURE”, then gaming is dead for me personally.

You already don’t own your games, unless you buy everything in physical copies.

Wait, so GOG is your answer to someone who laments not owning games anymore? That seems like the exact opposite of helpful to me.

Edit: I don’t know a ton about GOG, but it does appear that it’s DRM-free. But if GOG went out of business tomorrow, could you continue playing all those games forever? If so, then yeah, it’s a good solution for those folks.

Which, again, isn’t going away when Stadia launches.

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Only if you download them all first.

GOG is great, but even they haven’t figured out a way to let you own something unless, you know, you own it. So, yes, the laws of physics still apply. ;)

Yup. And I would bet that most customers do not in fact keep archives of their game downloads from GOG.

“Any company might stop letting you download what you paid for” is, in my view, the best argument against DRM.

Never been to the GOG forums I take it?

I confess that at roughly 600 games on GOG, I have lapsed behind and have only archived about 400 of those. But you can bet most of us do download and archive our favorites.

The point is that it’s up to us if we want to archive those games, not some third party.