Star Citizen - Chris Roberts, lots of spaceship porn, lots of promises

Those are some damn nice clouds.

You certainly have put more time thinking aobut immersion than I have, so no argument from me. Especially as I play tabletop RPG’s and a lot of story driven games (both on the PC and boardgames). Immersion in those comes from the theater of the mind much more than a few props on your computer screen or on the table.

But there is also the type of immersion you get in the latest Flight Simulator version, where you are flying what looks and feels like real planes in what looks like the real world. That can sell the fiction. But it does not create those memorable moments or living worlds that you mention on its own for sure.

Oh, and your point on falling into that uncanny valley when you spend too much time worrying about how characters pull bedsheets is well made. I hadn’t considered that, but it’s very true.

Thank you? I’ll continue doing so then. :)

Oh, and as is probably clear from the screenshots I have posted, this is me going to explore a planet and its moons or trying out a game system like deliveries, ship cargo or mining. They tend to be 1 or 2 hour diversions and seeing the sights type of things. So I’ll repeat my warning: those are beautiful and fun systems to toy around with, but don’t spend money on SC expecting a game, which justifies the general tone of this thread. Even if I personally prefer talking about what’s there to see and experiences flying in the verse than making the 5000th joke about jpegs.

This is a game headed into either its 9th or 10th year of development, depending on when you mark such things.

It has a full team of developers working full time as a primary profession on creating the game.

And this:

…is, frankly absurd.

That’s the kind of progress report update you get from a 22-year-old kid who’s taking part-time classes at the community college and developing a porn game in renpy and stringing along a handful of contributors on patreon to try to keep them around until the next billing cycle.

That’s so specific that I can’t help but wonder… ;)

If I possessed any talent for such a thing, I’d happily be augmenting my 401k contributions thusly…:D

I teach college seniors in their early 20s in our Game Studio capstone. This crap would not fly for them, nor would they even try to pass it off on the faculty. So, yeah, from a professional studio with all that money involved…no bueno.

No doubt. I feel bad for the artists who got hired under what certainly seem to be false pretenses.

More like, it’s what you get when you have a massive organization run badly, and each department needs to make itself look good to the incompetent management, so they put out a meaningless progress statement. And the only shareholders have mostly given up and are in the process of transferring all tasks to a 3rd party company that’s 1/100 the size.

Cupholders and related eating/drinking animations in the cockpit are really needed.

The game may be developed under false pretenses but I assume the artists are being paid for their work, and however Star Citizen turns out, the artists are producing really great work. I imagine the artists are among the most critical hires given that the game is just jpegs and pretty pictures.

I feel this is correct. They have some pretty great artists there, that’s for sure.

Well, there’s getting paid, and there’s accomplishing things. While, yeah, some great art is coming out of this project, I can’t but think that for people into making games it has to be really frustrating.

I like that wording. Reminds me of “Don’t confuse motion with progress.”

Or as one of my managers once said, "“Don’t confuse production with productivity.”

I think we need to do a long series of a/b tests to determine which of these phrases is best.

^this.

Also some corrections:

  • 2011 - 2021 = 10 yrs
  • 106 star systems
  • not a single star system is complete
  • server meshing is one of many pipe dreams

I personally enjoy reading your stories, while staring at beautiful screen shots. So please, by all means do carry on - you’ve got fans here. :)

You think? lol! You know I’ve been clamoring about this farce since 2015, right? I mean, it’s not as if I didn’t say it was all bollocks back then.