Star Citizen - Chris Roberts, lots of spaceship porn, lots of promises

BTW, is it okay to laugh at Bernie Madoff’s “victims”?

When CIG has to sell its assets, there will be some (a few, AFAIK) sweet ship models on the market. Who do you think is going to buy them up?

Crytek!

And then they’ll make their own space based FPS.

Not really. In hindsight, perhaps some of Madoff’s savviest investors should have been more credulous and suspicious of how well Madoff’s performance was going, but Madoff was also very good at not over-succeeding to draw that kind of suspicion. When he went down, it was an out-of-the-blue thunderclap.

At this point with CIG, if you’re still investing in ships and digital doo-dads, you are doing so in spite of obvious warning signs and ignoring red flags that even a cursory due diligence would show up. If you were a past investor, maybe you didn’t have enough skin in the game to make it worthwhile to get your investment out, or you did and seized your chance to grab a refund…or you knowingly decided to ride this rocket into the ground.

Sorry in advance but I haven’t had the chance to go through entire thread, just recent weeks and I have a question.

Was the nepotism proven re: Sandi Gardiner being Roberts’ common-law/wife/girlfriend?

A Sunday morning warlording session

The one before that, and which some of you may relate to, since you were all there - possibly making fun of me too. :)

Yeah, I broke that news a long time ago.

If Bernie Madoff had promised results for years and produced nothing; if Madoff had said “hey, let me sell you this picture of a pile of money, really and truly next week there will be real money” and had done that for years with no results, and STILL tried to sell you photos of funds, and if there had been articles and stories for years about Madoff being a scam artist, then yeah.

In Madoff’s case he was running a huge company with a top reputation, but at some point turned it into a Ponzi scheme, i,e. investors were getting returns in their banks and thus invested more and more money into his account.

Robert’s operation is so obviously bogus, with no real game after all these years, with not much to show for the millions people have sent him, selling photos of ships for outrageous amounts. If you sent money to him a couple of years or so ago, yeah I feel for you. I was a kickstarter supporter (I got a refund.) If you’re giving him money in the last year or so, no sympathy from me.

^this

Make fun of you?!? Hell, at one point, I wrote you a fan letter.
Which you graciously replied to. I remember being amazed at how friendly and polite you were. I still have it around here somewhere. IIRC it was in regard to “Battlecruiser Millennium”.

If I may add to this, I never got in on the pile on. While I may have thought that you were a very arrogant individual, I also thought that game devs were amazing people. They could create things that I would play. Sometimes get so very involved in their games that I would forget the real world. That was a wonderful thing. An amazing thing. Something that I could not do. So fuck the haters @dsmart

I was just on a GTL show talking about, you guessed it, Star Citizen

I updated the link to reflect the completed video stream. Apparently when you edit links, the view count resets.

Anyway, I like how those guys were thinking this was going to be a Star Citizen slamming session. We reached out to a bunch of those devout backers and streamers, none of them agreed to come on the show. One even stood them up at the last minute. Cowards. They only function inside their cult bubble. Then again, the Crytek lawsuit threatens to expose all of them, so it makes sense that they will stay away; though that hasn’t stopped them from spewing nonsense on their channels.

I watched that talk and agree it would have been more interesting to hear someone give a counterpoint. You guys all seemed to have variants of the same (reasonable) opinions.

A brief aside to @dsmart: I would like to play the “latest version” of the Battlecruiser series. Which product should I buy? I am interested in trying out the “large seamless universe” aspect of the game. (I know this was addressed by a poster somewhere else in this thread but I canna find it.)

The Universal Combat series are the direct progression of the Battlecruiser 3000AD series.

You could start with the $9.99 version on Steam as Universal Combat CE 2.0 (changelog)

Then, if after looking at the improvements (changelog) to that and which I made in 3.0 of the series, in the form of The Lyrius Conflict DLC, you think they are worthy of the additional expense, you can get that as well.

Despite their many faults, these games still remain the only games of their kind, as our resident space combat guru, @BrianRubin will probably attest to.

Can definitely attest.

Also, you don’t need a complex capital ship combat game like BC/UC to experience the space/planetary technology. I recently updated my space/planetary combat fighter combat game, GALCOM Echo Squad SE (changelog) as well. And I have another update going out later this week for it.

Brooski, I’m running a sale right now on this .gif, just $300 will get you started.

@rowe33 Does it come with a land certificate?

@dsmart I am actually very excited to play a “complex capital ship simulator.” As a veteran of Usenet in the good bad old days, I would love to see how the game actually shaped up. I just bought UC 2.0 CE.

You basically have three games to choose from if you want this:

  1. Battlecruiser/Universal Combat
  2. Rules of Engagement 1/2
  3. Klingon Academy

And sadly that’s it.

Sure, some might say “But what about Independence War?” and while those are AMAZING games, they lack the complexity of the three above, sadly.