Star Citizen - Chris Roberts, lots of spaceship porn, lots of promises

[Telefrog]

I would love to play the games they’re supposedly creating. I’m rooting for them to succeed. I’m simply not optimistic about their chances.

Same here. I totally wish the version of Star Citizen they’re pitching is a real honest-to-gosh thing I can play someday.

I just don’t have much hope that this company is going to do it.

[scharmers]

I too agree that South Carolina the state is better than Duke Nukem Forever the game.

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[Paul_cze]

Nope, I have never given them a penny.

I want two things for Christmas, more than anything!

The Trump piss tape
A Wing Commander or Tie/Fighter sequel

I will add to that list:
3. I want CIG to go balls-up bankrupt so they can be a cautionary tale. (The only person I would feel for is Brian, and I may crowd-fund his $120 just so I can get that off my conscience.)

At the risk of sounding like an asshole, you sound like an asshole.

I hope they suceed and I get a great singleplayer game out of it all, and others get their innovative MMO.

[wilykat]

I can see where he’s coming from though. Just like I wish the first $60 game that included micropayments had failed miserably, or the first game that included prerelease DLC that wouldn’t be available later, I really hope this isn’t successful not because I don’t want people to get a great game that they really want, but because I don’t want raising money via vaporware over a many-year period with minimal progress to be viewed as a good long-term strategy.

[Timex]

I really hope this isn’t successful not because I don’t want people to get a great game that they really want, but because I don’t want raising money via vaporware over a many-year period with minimal progress to be viewed as a good long-term strategy.

So… if they actually MADE the game that Roberts wants to make, and its successful… why exactly would this process be bad?

I mean, it seems like the only “badness” here would be if it never got made. But if it did, then I’m not seeing what the problem is.

[stusser]

If it leads to a great game I don’t care if they’re sacrificing infants to the feathered Incan serpent god Quetzelcoatl and mixing that baby blood with self-jerked goat semen, Captain Morgan, simple syrup, and a squeeze of lemon then spraying the resulting cocktail over their turgid penises and banging their grandmothers in an orgiastic blend of taboo sex and shocking violence.

[SlapBone]

At the risk of sounding like an asshole, you sound like an asshole.

Nice attack from out of nowhere.

I think what they are doing is harmful to the industry. Using false scarcity to continue to milk large amounts of money from gamers who just really want the game they paid for back in 2012 is kind of a bullshit move on their part.

Just like many folks who are rooting against this or that politician (The Donald), not wanting them to be successful at ruining this or that about our country, I am rooting against Star Citizen… I mean I totally want it to fail, and I want Chris Roberts and the board of directors of CGI to be guilty of breaking some law(s) and to go to jail. Then I want the government to step in and make it illegal to engage in this type of funding.

Every part of this game sounds like it was designed to grift more money and to micro-transact every single facet of the game. In it’s finished state, It becomes no more than a money printer for these cynical shits sitting up there at CIG… yea, I’m an asshole.

[Paul_cze]

Yep, my first estimation stands.

[Wendelius]

yea, I’m an asshole.

Yep. Towards the people working on it and towards the people who chose to support it and/or want to play either S42 or SC at the end.

[Timex]

I think what they are doing is harmful to the industry. Using false scarcity to continue to milk large amounts of money from gamers who just really want the game they paid for back in 2012 is kind of a bullshit move on their part.

I’m still not seeing what the harm is, if he actually makes a game and it succeeds.

At that point, he will have funded a game that he and gamers actually wanted, separate from the giant corporate overlords at places like EA and Activision.

Not really seeing the evil, if he pulls it off.

I mean, if it never happens (which seems unlikely at this point given what already exists), THAT would be potentially harmful. But if it actually does happen… Then it seems like it’d be good.

[stusser]

They soaked hundreds or even thousands of dollars out of individual gamers to finance the game. That sort of thing ultimately is problematic. Developers shouldn’t be selling thousand-dollar spaceships for a game that isn’t-- by any meaning of the word-- complete. And may never be complete.

It’s debatable whether they should be selling thousand dollar spaceships for finished games. I don’t like that sort of thing at all, but it’s probably inevitable. Too much money to leave on the table.

[Timex]

They soaked hundreds or even thousands of dollars out of individual gamers to finance the game. That sort of thing ultimately is problematic. Developers shouldn’t be selling thousand-dollar spaceships for a game that isn’t-- by any meaning of the word-- complete. And may never be complete.

Why not?

I mean, this is kind of how kickstarter works. You pay money to fund an endeavor, and get various perks in exchange.

The only difference here is that the perks are in the form of virtual goods, rather than physical… but we pay money for virtual goods every day, so that’s clearly not a differentiation.

[stusser]

For me, it’s a matter of degree. I find it distasteful.

[Timex]

Degree of what? How expensive the contributions are?

[Jason_McMaster]

For me, it’s a matter of degree. I find it distasteful.

pretty much my problem as well

It didn’t stop at the Kickstarter

[stusser]

Exactly. They’re continuing to crowdfund, month after month after year, and as they expand their scope the completion date slips further and further away.

[rhamorim]

If it leads to a great game I don’t care if they’re sacrificing infants to the feathered Incan serpent god Quetzelcoatl and mixing that baby blood with self-jerked goat semen, Captain Morgan, simple syrup, and a squeeze of lemon then spraying the resulting cocktail over their turgid penises and banging their grandmothers in an orgiastic blend of taboo sex and shocking violence.

That was… something.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/8b/8bd3b0466afa93e41023d190c7dcdcc881932cb5c47481c4e29578a554f49a36.jpg

[RichVR]

That was very… Cleve-like. Hmmm…

[Ryan_Kelly]

Every part of this game sounds like it was designed to grift more money and to micro-transact every single facet of the game. In it’s finished state, It becomes no more than a money printer for these cynical shits sitting up there at CGI… yea, I’m an asshole.

They have stated numerous times that their plan is to stop selling standalone ships for real money once the game launches, and switch to selling in-game currency with a monthly cap per player.

[stusser]

Hate that plan too. Totally pay2win, in a B2P title. Not OK.

But I’m primarily interested in the wing commander nostalgia game, not the MMO, so… whatever.