Star Citizen - Chris Roberts, lots of spaceship porn, lots of promises

Well, they are at GamesCom this week. So.

Word is that the invited streamers are going to be playing the current 2.6.3 build. No word yet on whether or not 3.0 will actually be played live. I remember when, mere months ago, the German shills over at GameStar.de as well as PC Gamer, claimed to have “played” a 3.0 build; then subsequently wrote major puff pieces.

But no fear! They have a new ship sale. $400! <---- that was NOT a typo.

Yes - the whole thing is so hilarious now, that it beggars belief.

Are their forums going nutso yet?

No, but check my Twitter feed for the latest hilarity. They’re actually playing “levels” - right now - at GamesCom, while trying to pass it off as the 3.0 “game”

https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/899660765396914176

Keeping it classy, I see.

That’s your moral compass, not mine. And your inconsequential and misplaced indignation are lost on me.

They are both PUBLIC FIGURES who have scammed over $156M from gamers, and who, nepotism (the point!) aside, have continued to do just that. If she wasn’t a part of the company, this won’t be worthy of note.

It was so unimportant back when they were actively HIDING the fact that they were married, until I broke the news - and forced Chris to acknowledge the fact that the VP of Marketing he has been pretending to NOT know before the project, was actually his wife. Even as some backers were telling me that I was making shit up.

Fact is, the wealth of this project, is going to THREE members (we know all of them) of a family, plus some of their close friends (we know all of them). And so far, $156M later, they have FAILED to produce ANYTHING of value that was promised.

In addition to around 400 employees and four studios.

To quote last year’s article from Kotaku UK:

It is difficult, after all these months of research and having heard from so many people involved with the project, to seriously entertain the notion that Star Citizen is some kind of intentional scam. Hundreds of people all over the world are working hard on it, and have been for years. Although there have been plenty of scandalous allegations, not one of them has checked out in our research – though of course nobody outside of its management team has full visibility on Cloud Imperium’s finances. If Star Citizen goes down – and it yet might – it will likely be because its sheer scope is out of step with the reality of actually making it, or because the money runs out, or because it’s taken too long and its funders have finally withdrawn their support. If there is anything more nefarious than that going on, we have found no convincing evidence of it.

It’s not an intentional scam, and it isn’t going down due to any of those three reasons. It’s failing due to a fine mélange of ambition and incompetence.

Ah yes, the usual “they have a company and employees, so it’s totally not a scam”.

You’re an ignorant fool.

https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/899667993315205121

Indeed. It also doesn’t have to be a scam for Chris Roberts & Co to have used it as a ‘get very rich, very quick’ vessel while still fully believing that they can deliver a game.

Right, it’s unnecessary to assign malign intent when incompetence and greed suffice.

Precisely. And the reason that nepotism and favoritism keep coming up is because of the involvement of Chris, his wife Sanid, his brother Erin, his long time biz partner Ortwin, his long time friends Zurovek, Senior et al. A total of 9 of them who wouldn’t be making the money they are making now if they were working at any video game company. Heck, Erin, according to public records, is making almost 2x what anyone in his position in the UK would be making.

Very true. However, the very act of continuing to raise funds for a game they know full well they have no chance of delivering on, is where the “scam” part of this comes from. Setting aside the issues of them changing the ToS to favor the company, while stripping backers of previous recourse they once had in the previous ToS versions.

When you’re selling JPEGs of game assets for a game that’s nowhere near complete, while lying to backers about the status of said game, that’s a scam.

I was specifically responding to your assertion that the wealth of this project is going to a handful of people. No need to misrepresent my post and engage in name-calling.

I think you’re underselling how powerful self-deception can be. My feeling is the principals fully believe they can and will deliver on their promises. They see themselves as heroically persevering, conquering a herculean challenge.

At the end of the day if they did deliver a great game, nobody would care that it came several years late and a bunch of fast/loose/scummy shenanigans with DLC and crowdfunders. Now we know that won’t happen. But do they? I wouldn’t be so sure.

You’re still an ignorant fool because it’s quite the stretch to not understand the context of my comment. How on Earth you came away with the notion that what I stated meant the wealth in “totality” went to them, is precisely how Star Citizen ended up getting $156M.

Saying someone is “ignorant” (lacking knowledge of facts, in this context) and a “fool” (ignoring facts) is not name calling. Grow up.

That’s true from an external perspective. But many sources have stated clearly, and for which many articles have been written, that they know - full well - that the project “as pitched” couldn’t be made. There is no ambiguity there.

Yes, they are attempting to make a “game”, but NOT the game they are pitching and for which they keep raising money.

I mean, look at this shit.

This is actually really useful, thanks!

Jesus, how dare people invite friends to help them work on something. The gall of them!

That’s all you see in it? That they asked “friends and family” to help them “work on something”? Are you high?

No, I am not high. Thanks for asking.