Star Citizen - Chris Roberts, lots of spaceship porn, lots of promises

dsmart · 2017-09-21T12:30:37.402Z

YakAttack:

I guess if there’s one thing we can learn from this thread, it’s that Universal Combat was a scam.

LMAO!! I totally see what you did there, man :)

Desslock · 2017-09-21T15:33:40.348Z

I really should go through the refund process, but they gave me a plastic ID card saying I’m a Rear Admiral, so I guess me and my $250 kickstarter package will go down with the ship.

BrianRubin · 2017-09-21T15:34:50.082Z

Desslock:

so I guess me and my $250 kickstarter package will go down with the jpeg.

FTFY.

dsmart · 2017-09-21T15:37:14.467Z

Desslock:

I really should go through the refund process, but they gave me a plastic ID card saying I’m a Rear Admiral, so I guess me and my $250 kickstarter package will go down with the ship.

I have the same card. Get a refund. You get to keep the card.

Though, as I Tweeted on Sept 1st, they’ve now started refusing refunds.

My Sept 1st Tweet:

twitter.com

Derek Smart (dsmart)

BREAKING: CIG is going to stop doing refunds by year end. I personally welcome this plan. Why? Because it will fuel the ensuing outrage

7:47 PM - 1 Sep 2017 19 5

No refund after 14 days:

r/starcitizen_refunds - After waiting 7 days for a reponse, I was told I had to...

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Ginger_Yellow · 2017-09-21T16:24:38.537Z

That’s weird. The fourteen days thing seems to be a nod to the distance selling rules, but pretty much every downloadable software seller makes you effectively waive that right (as they’re allowed to do). Don’t know if CIG did, but it would be very silly if they didn’t.

That said, it’s fourteen days from delivery, and unless the JPEG buying was literally that (ie no promise of an actual ship in future), then they haven’t delivered yet.

Gordon_Cameron · 2017-09-21T16:43:56.880Z

Desslock:

they gave me a plastic ID card saying I’m a Rear Admiral

milhouse

Desslock · 2017-09-21T16:47:09.560Z

Ginger_Yellow:

That said, it’s fourteen days from delivery,

Yeah, I’m confident that you could get a refund if you were dedicated to doing so.

dsmart · 2017-09-21T23:37:34.121Z

Ginger_Yellow:

That’s weird. The fourteen days thing seems to be a nod to the distance selling rules, but pretty much every downloadable software seller makes you effectively waive that right (as they’re allowed to do). Don’t know if CIG did, but it would be very silly if they didn’t.

That said, it’s fourteen days from delivery, and unless the JPEG buying was literally that (ie no promise of an actual ship in future), then they haven’t delivered yet.

Yeah it’s bullshit. Their 14-day “no refund” nonsense will never hold up in arbitration if challenged.

The issue is that they are being vague. This is the first time they’ve gone on record saying no refund after 14 days. Some people were saying that it was because this person asked for a partial refund, which shouldn’t make a difference anyway. I guess he had a fight with them because in his update they said they would give him a full refund.

Brooski · 2017-09-22T07:25:04.179Z

I just checked my Kickstarter and I gave them thirty dollars. I am going to plant a flag on that and wait for the inevitable postcard in the mail telling me I am part of the class action.

Fifth_Fret · 2017-09-22T08:25:52.371Z

14 days seems in violation of UK distance selling laws.

Ginger_Yellow · 2017-09-22T10:47:13.952Z

Not in itself, no. In fact, UK (and indirectly EU) distance selling laws are the only reason I can think of for giving the 14 days at all.

You must tell the customer they can cancel their order up to 14 days after their order is delivered. They don’t need to give a reason for cancelling.

As I said above, though, the 14 day thing doesn’t normally apply to digital sales, and as soon as you download you lose the right to cancel in most online stores.

Fifth_Fret · 2017-09-22T10:51:29.077Z

Oh, I thought it was longer than that.

And I’d forgotten about the digital aspect.

So why 14 days? What a strange situation.

Edit: You are a lawyer!!

Ginger_Yellow · 2017-09-22T10:56:11.054Z

Nope.

sharaleo · 2017-09-22T11:05:58.834Z

On the internet, everyone is a lawyer.

Fifth_Fret · 2017-09-22T11:07:18.173Z

Your words say ‘nope’ but your avatar says ‘objection!’.

RichVR · 2017-09-22T11:22:29.732Z

Ginger_Yellow:

Nope.

So… You ANAL?

Giles_Habibula · 2017-09-22T16:18:49.101Z

Fifth_Fret:

Your words say ‘nope’ but your avatar says ‘objection!’.

I love that avatar!
Don’t you ever change it, @Ginger_Yellow.

Ginger_Yellow · 2017-09-22T16:20:24.194Z

RichVR:

So… You ANAL?

Absolutely. And this is not advice. Just a tip.

rhamorim · 2017-09-22T17:15:43.835Z

Ginger_Yellow:

Just a tip.

I see what you did there.

Lantz · 2017-09-22T17:18:46.134Z

Man, @dsmart is about to have some serious egg on his face. CIG is about to release the fabled v3.0 release to the initial customer test environments. So many fully realized new pieces of functionality, so many blocking issues fixed.

Or, instead of fixing the blocking issues they just recategorized them to not blocking and they stripped out basically all the new content.

On the plus side, they have been doing motion capture for multiple different Air Traffic Control AIs so all of the different places you can’t actually visit will have custom ATC experiences that you can’t visit.