RichVR
5756
Truedat. And it brought my computer to its knees way back when.
But Crysis wasn’t…harp plays…a magical MMO with spaceships…
No they haven’t. At least not from what I’ve read. You can buy the same land claim beacon you can buy in-game with UEC. That’s all you are buying with real-money instead of in-game credits. It’s like a gift certificate for a land claim deed. But you still need to go find the land and claim it the same way a player buying it in-game would.
See here:
- These claims are essentially preordering the paperwork and beacon to claim a parcel of land, which you still have to hunt down and prospect (if you want to see if there’s anything worthwhile there, which will vary depending who’s looking to own it).
- It’s only a legal document and a beacon. Unless you shoot the interlopers looking to walk around your plot, it does nothing other than being able to report them for trespassing.
- This only applies to UEE space.
- These will be 100% purchasable in-game for credits, and the mechanic isn’t close to being implemented.
But it sounds more sexy when you accuse them of selling land.
It’s a different kind of jpg, sure. A beacon instead of a ship.
Wendelius
KevinC
5759
The distinction is kind of irrelevant, at least in my eyes. The point (complaint) still stands that they’re now selling beacon JPEGs for yet another feature yet to be implemented behind… well, all of the rest.
rhamorim
5760
For how much UEC? Oh, wait, no one knows. It could be an outrageous amount in UEC, but no one really knows! And you can’t buy it right now with UEC. The only way to buy it right now is using cash. Oh yeah, and store credit doesn’t count.
BTW, you know when you buy a house? You actually buy a legal document! Unless you shoot the interlopers looking to walk around your plot, it does nothing other than being able to report them for trespassing.
Though I suppose you can sell a house! But good luck selling beacons in UEE space. Especially after Star Citizen crashes and burns.
Maybe I’m not understanding this right but that sounds worse to me. So instead of selling land, they are selling the paperwork for land? Isn’t the logical next step to sell the land itself?
For something that exists, that you select before signing anything. :)
None of this land exists yet, you have no idea where your claim will be.
Just like it would feel to be a space pioneer!
Roberts has done it again!
Yeah, I don’t think the complaint is that they’re letting people bypass gameplay with money. It’s that they’re making money before implementing the gameplay. Or even having an idea what the gameplay will be.
I would not be surprised if they start selling very beautiful plots of land on the basis that it’s “purely cosmetic” and go back on their earlier promise.
Yeah, I think you are misunderstanding why we are considering it ridiculous, which is straight from the Q&A you posted
Edit: Best part of the FAQ right here:
Nice, I like the direction you’re going… so we could pool some money and go all in?
Lantz
5768
There will be plenty of room on the moons for all of the average players to grind out an existence that, let’s be honest here, will be way better than what passes for their real ‘lives’.
I think that it is funny that you are all focused on these worthless plots when real players like me have already locked in the choicest of real estate. This is why I bought the Stanton II Crusader Sataball franchise for only $150k in 2015 after a private negotiation with CIG. Now the Crusader corporation will have to build me the highest fidelity Stadium in the Galaxy with huge parking lots for all my fans or I will move the team to another planet. And I am going to make that money back on naming rights alone, let alone tickets and my 90% cut on concessions and parking!
The LA Dodgers sold for 2 billion dollars and they can’t even stream on twitch.
If you all upvote me enough I might consider hiring you into my Org as ticket takers or space beer vendors. Maybe someday you can work your way up to being a cargo loader for the t-shirt cannons.
Look at it this way. You’re getting in on the ground floor of a whole new universe. How do you think Yahweh got to be such a bigshot in this one?
Oh yeah. I can totally see the different type of jpg complaint. After all, the whale based funding system along with the slow progress are two of the things that make people really uneasy about the game.
But part of the initial furore elsewhere was that players thought you could pre buy your own plot of land and basically already have a stake claimed for yourself in the game before it even launches.
That’s not it. Supporters are spending money on a planned feature. But then again, that’s always been the model for supporting development of the game.
So yes, it’s another jpg I I misread the initial reactions here. I can totally understand that point of view.
Functionally how is it different though?
The beacon is effectively a legal stake on land to be granted to the first person who plants it. Presumably the whales get to fly around and find the best spots before launch. As soon as the game launches if you haven’t bought a beacon then the immediate prime spots would have effectively been sold to the whales.
Well, at least that’s how I think it works, given that they are selling beacons for a system which mechanics haven’t even been fleshed out.
meeper
5772
It’s not just because it’s another jpg, It’s because it’s effectively a jpg of a jpg. Buy this jpg of a ship, but you won’t know what the ship even looks like or what functionality it will offer for X years (assuming all goes exactly as we’ve planned, exactly like all of our other plans).
dsmart
5773
Semantics isn’t going to cut it. How does selling a deed to land, different from selling a beacon to said land? Please explain, I am literally DYING to hear this one.
I will also spare you the agony of asking you to explain and/or rationalize how that is different from selling JPEGs of ships that DO NOT EXIST in the game. e.g. the 890 Jump will failed to sell two days ago, was unveiled as a JPEG back in 2014.
I’ll wait. Right here. So please make it good.
dsmart
5774
Yes, that’s precisely how it works. It completely throws out their argument about it not being P2W when in fact by the time you grind enough to even get the credits, you would have found that the whales already own land.
Oh, and this cash only. No store credits. New money only. So yeah, totally not a cash grab - even though they said so, as clear as daylight - right there in their FAQ.
