Star Citizen - Chris Roberts, lots of spaceship porn, lots of promises


#5751

Who the hell has the money for this, assuming good intentions? I know Americans have much higher wages than this lovely little country by the sea, but isn’t your rent super expensive too? How does this sound like a sound investment** when it would involve a constant stream of money? I know that people don’t add up micro-transactions, because humans are dumb with numbers, but this… I don’t get it.

** SC is not a real financial investment, the usage is figurative


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#5754

Roberts keeps throwing out ‘Crysis’-level graphics fidelity. I’m thinking he either bought that line hook and sinker from Crytek when they were pitching the engine or he doesn’t realize that Crysis is now a whopping 10 years old.


#5755

Still looks pretty dang good, though.


#5756

Truedat. And it brought my computer to its knees way back when.


#5757

But Crysis wasn’t…harp plays…a magical MMO with spaceships…


#5758

No they haven’t. At least not from what I’ve read. You can buy the same land claim beacon you can buy in-game with UEC. That’s all you are buying with real-money instead of in-game credits. It’s like a gift certificate for a land claim deed. But you still need to go find the land and claim it the same way a player buying it in-game would.

See here:

  • These claims are essentially preordering the paperwork and beacon to claim a parcel of land, which you still have to hunt down and prospect (if you want to see if there’s anything worthwhile there, which will vary depending who’s looking to own it).
  • It’s only a legal document and a beacon. Unless you shoot the interlopers looking to walk around your plot, it does nothing other than being able to report them for trespassing.
  • This only applies to UEE space.
  • These will be 100% purchasable in-game for credits, and the mechanic isn’t close to being implemented.

But it sounds more sexy when you accuse them of selling land.

It’s a different kind of jpg, sure. A beacon instead of a ship.

Wendelius


#5759

The distinction is kind of irrelevant, at least in my eyes. The point (complaint) still stands that they’re now selling beacon JPEGs for yet another feature yet to be implemented behind… well, all of the rest.


#5760

For how much UEC? Oh, wait, no one knows. It could be an outrageous amount in UEC, but no one really knows! And you can’t buy it right now with UEC. The only way to buy it right now is using cash. Oh yeah, and store credit doesn’t count.

BTW, you know when you buy a house? You actually buy a legal document! Unless you shoot the interlopers looking to walk around your plot, it does nothing other than being able to report them for trespassing.

Though I suppose you can sell a house! But good luck selling beacons in UEE space. Especially after Star Citizen crashes and burns.


#5761

Maybe I’m not understanding this right but that sounds worse to me. So instead of selling land, they are selling the paperwork for land? Isn’t the logical next step to sell the land itself?


#5762

For something that exists, that you select before signing anything. :)

None of this land exists yet, you have no idea where your claim will be.


#5763

Just like it would feel to be a space pioneer!

Roberts has done it again!


#5764

Yeah, I don’t think the complaint is that they’re letting people bypass gameplay with money. It’s that they’re making money before implementing the gameplay. Or even having an idea what the gameplay will be.


#5765

I would not be surprised if they start selling very beautiful plots of land on the basis that it’s “purely cosmetic” and go back on their earlier promise.


#5766

Yeah, I think you are misunderstanding why we are considering it ridiculous, which is straight from the Q&A you posted

Edit: Best part of the FAQ right here:


#5767

Nice, I like the direction you’re going… so we could pool some money and go all in?


#5768

There will be plenty of room on the moons for all of the average players to grind out an existence that, let’s be honest here, will be way better than what passes for their real ‘lives’.

I think that it is funny that you are all focused on these worthless plots when real players like me have already locked in the choicest of real estate. This is why I bought the Stanton II Crusader Sataball franchise for only $150k in 2015 after a private negotiation with CIG. Now the Crusader corporation will have to build me the highest fidelity Stadium in the Galaxy with huge parking lots for all my fans or I will move the team to another planet. And I am going to make that money back on naming rights alone, let alone tickets and my 90% cut on concessions and parking!

The LA Dodgers sold for 2 billion dollars and they can’t even stream on twitch.

If you all upvote me enough I might consider hiring you into my Org as ticket takers or space beer vendors. Maybe someday you can work your way up to being a cargo loader for the t-shirt cannons.


#5769

Look at it this way. You’re getting in on the ground floor of a whole new universe. How do you think Yahweh got to be such a bigshot in this one?


#5770

Oh yeah. I can totally see the different type of jpg complaint. After all, the whale based funding system along with the slow progress are two of the things that make people really uneasy about the game.

But part of the initial furore elsewhere was that players thought you could pre buy your own plot of land and basically already have a stake claimed for yourself in the game before it even launches.

That’s not it. Supporters are spending money on a planned feature. But then again, that’s always been the model for supporting development of the game.

So yes, it’s another jpg I I misread the initial reactions here. I can totally understand that point of view.