Man, for $5000 you could buy an amazing gaming PC and all the VR gear and play Elite in VR. And have money left over for pizza and beer.
Hipster beer or pig-piss beer?
Generally hipster beer. Unless said hipster beer’s hoppiness makes it taste like a sackful of lawn clippings. In which case a typical watery American lager is OK.
However, if you want to experience true fucking misery, try sipping on a Bud Light Lime. Probably the foulest American piswaBer every.
Barley wine.
The first known civil case against a party associated with this train wreck, was thrown out.
Guess any chance of refunds are gone unless you can get consumer advocates in your local region involved.
Derek is like a schadenfreude vampire.
He’s going to explode like a swollen tick when Star Citizen finally collapses.
LOL!!!
Bootcha, the ex-investor on the Star Citizen project, has posted his latest video in his on-going series. I think this one is his best yet.
Bonus points for the ‘Money for Nothing’ reference in there
Yeah! I wonder how many people caught that. :)
Great video.
This gets worse the more I learn about it. It’s hard to believe people are this gullible… which means I probably was too at some point in my life.
And most of it isn’t even illegal.
That’s the best part.
I think he should have stuck with the Wildcatting analogy and not confuse the issue when he began using the term fracking as the video does a good job of suggesting there is a primary focus to collect and play with other people’s money versus to achieve an end state of game delivery.
I don’t think Star Citizen as crowd-funding project will have a true impact on crowd-funding for games in general, because it is out there as a one off and on a ridiculous scale of funding. I don’t think it gets cited as the reason why crowd-funding games is rough. I think the repetitive nature of many more failed projects that were successfully funded out there have done that.
Quite an entertaining video. I think the metaphors were pretty spot-on, and I didn’t mind the slight digression into fracking.
I think this sort of thing just underlines what I’ve always said. Game companies are not in the business of making games. They are in the business of making money. They happen to use games as the vehicle. Roberts is just being breathtakingly blunt about it, in some ways.
Usually, as in P&R threads, I’m pretty cautious about blaming individuals for bad choices when they occur within a context of extreme social and cultural pressures. For instance, I am not going to project some moral failing onto someone who is in debt because they wanted an Xbox, a cell phone, and cable. In this case, though, I dunno. Up to a certain point, investing in this project seems like it was perfectly rational. I’ve Kickstarted things before, like most of us. After a while, though, it seems to an outsider at least that it would have become blindingly obvious that this was not a good place to toss your cash.
Sure but as with any company, if you want to make money it’s nice to have a product to give people in exchange for it.
I guess Cloud Imperium’s product … is hope!
Definitely. Apparently, it’s optional though.
You can say this about pizza and pizza parlors too. As with every industry, some players care about the product/service, others don’t.
In the case of Star Citizen I suspect the caring and the drive for a product was at its origins, but several factors seem to have caused them to derail and focus on something else. Due to the early attraction and quick financial draw, the measure of success became about raising funds, not how well a game could be made. We have seen several crowd-funding efforts go this way, where the devs are driving new cars thinking the pot of money is endless. Seems CIG realized that they wanted to keep it flowing indefinitely.
I do think a product will come out of all this, but it won’t be super awesome as imagined at the rate it is going. And “we reached for the stars and did not quite get there” is not going to be enough for those emotionally and financially invested in the end.
But they are still raising money, so this is in no way over. The river o’ cash is still flowing for this project, and very briskly as well. As long as that is going on, anything could happen, but that does not mean it will.