kerzain
1885
Oh, you didn’t enjoy Tilly?
Pod
1886
Why would you watch just the episode? What’s the point in that?
You could always read a bunch of summaries of you don’t want to watch it all?
Editer
1887
Brian, Season 2 is great, even if you’re a GAL Trek purist. (I have one of those inside me that I manage to repress with rational internal discussion – most of the time.)
They retcon out the stupid Klingon uniforms and ugly ships. They act more Starfleet-ey. The stories are good. There are issues, but overall, it’s some of the best Star Trek ever and if you go in with an an open mind I think you’ll enjoy the hell out of the ride.
We had an intense discussion over the best Star Trek in the stream tonight. Most of it was us discussing the best Star Trek villain. It got heated. Tom called us all nerds. But it is fun to be on streams when that happens. (DS9 is the best fyi)
Season 2’s story was mostly nonsense, but I loved Pike and there was plenty of fun to be had.
Not sure how I feel about the Season 3 time jump. One on hand, it unshackles them from established lore. On the other, it feels very Voyager. We’ve seen one example of how the whole “on their own” thing plays out.
Me when the Enterprise crew assembled:
Yes this exactly. I’d mostly rather watch the Pike / Number One on Enterprise show vs the often whiny crew on future Discovery show.
I loved how Number 1 gave her name as Number 1 while being debriefed/questioned at the end of the episode.
Absolutely, they where great and the whole enterprise would be a great place to go to. One never knows, I doubt it will happen but the response to pike was overwhelmingly positive. Would be a shame for them to not ASAP capitalize on that.
rshetts
1893
The Pike era Enterprise is a fairly unmined but very rich vein of Star Trek lore. Both Mount as Pike and Ethan Peck as Spock were the highlights of Discovery’s season 2. It wouldnt even have to be a full blown series, even a short run series on the events between Discovery and Pike’s eventual accident would be nice. CBS would be fools to not take advantage of the demand for more of these characters.
Tim_N
1894
I thought season 2 was good fun, I will be back whenever season 3 airs.
One question about the ending:
After Georgiou was able to kill Control and disable all of the machine micro-fighters, why did Michael et. al. need to go into the future at all?
Because they can never be sure that Control is truly dead. Maybe it hid itself on some computer somewhere and is waiting for a chance. As long as Discovery has that data, it’s in danger. The only way to be sure is to make it unavailable in this time.
jostly
1896
But what’s stopping Control from just biding its time for 900 years and then getting the data? Jumping forward seems to just defer the problem until later :)
Wait, the Short Treks are on Netflix? Not in the US though, right?
Not in the U.S., correct. (CBS All Access here in the U.S.).
JD
1899
Yeah, sorry, I was talking about Netflix Europe.
Enjoyed the season overall. I really liked how they reframed Pike’s fate into a heroic choice (well, more than rescuing some nameless redshirts anyway.)
Complaints: that whole episode where they capture the red angel made no sense (even for Star Trek.) If it was future Michael like they believed, then they should have kept her out of the loop in the planning. Wouldn’t it be necessary for her to actually die for the angel to step in, instead of having a resuscitation team ready (arguably that might have been Spock/Michael’s plan all along, but you’d think Pike/others would have clued in.)
The LOTR goodbyes. Some directors also loved their panning cameras a bit much.
Still, good fun. I’m down for the next season and a Pike show if they go for that.
Michael and Spock realized this. That’s why they knew it couldn’t be fake, and why she signalled Spock, and he made sure that they didn’t rescue her.
Yeah, but you would think someone else would have figured that out. Also wouldn’t they have run the risk that present MIchael dying erase future Michael, preventing a red angel rescue? I’m usually pretty forgiving of time travel shenanigans in service of a story, but that episode as glaring.
They would, but that’s why it was almost guaranteed to work, right? They already knew that in this timeline red angel lived, so if Michael was the red angel, killing Michael would force the rescue because otherwise this timeline wouldn’t exist in the first place.
They were pretty wishy-washy about whether time can be changed, which is part of the problem.
