Wikipedia. Neither is all that vital to understanding the story of SWTOR, and there’s a general presumption that KOTOR II’s somewhat un-Star-Warsy plot has been semi-deprecated in terms of canon (although the major characters, battles etc still figure in.)
At least in summary form the KOTOR II story was off-putting, convoluted, not respectful to KOTOR’s characters, and willing to screw around with Star Wars concepts like the Force and it’s meaning just so it could tell its own particular story.
Cue Chris Avellone fans to come in and explain how an Avellone joint just can’t be constrained by simplistic good-and-evil Star Wars childishness.
Teiman
2942
What language will use the game?
Will it be in english? If is in english, I will not understand any of the NPC talks, since I don’t speak english, at all.
I suppose will be translated to spanish in the final version. Otherwise, the whole game will be useless to me.
Post Of The Year. :D
I think the full localizations besides English are just French, German and Shyriiwook
Murbella
2944
Yes, kotor 2 did try to be less traditionally star warsy. Kotor 2 loved the color gray. Traditional star wars is just pure black and pure white, no middle ground, but kotor 2 tries to screw with you.
None the less, i don’t feel you need to play either kotor 1 or kotor 2 to get the story in swtor. You will get more of the background if you played them, but this stuff is mostly explained in swtor as well and is only background.
I’d almost say you’d have greater culture shock loading up swtor if you haven’t watched the prequel series of movies.
Swtor is much more kotor 1 than 2 i think. This is mostly my guess based on limited information, so maybe i am completely wrong as i’m under the impression the beta did not really cover this, but i believe there is sort of a light/dark side leveling system which lets you equip special light side or dark side only gear. Thus you will want to have one high to be able to use Reven’s triple sided lightsaber, probably.
Teiman
2945
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flem1
2946
The fact that most of us who’ve played (and played a lot) are still respecting it says way more.
You all don’t seem to remember what it looks like when a large portion of the test base actually dislikes the (state of) the game. It’s not this.
Uh, maybe on average.
DA2 was near-universally derided. ME2 tops the Metacritic charts and won more GOTY awards than any title ever (including most of the popular vote ones).
flem1
2947
Funny, that’s also how it was in game form. Even fanpatched. Liked Atton and the Canderous development though.
nomaar
2948
This is very true. NDA or no NDA, the buzz about a game gets out during beta testing, and you know pretty much in advance whether or not it’s going to flop. I saw it when I tested Warhammer Online. Anyone who followed the game closely knew it was DOA. The same with Age of Conan.
The doomsayers who are predicting failure for SWTOR based on a few hours of testing the starter areas don’t have a clue. If anything, the buzz about SWTOR has been getting more positive as the beta has progressed, to an extent that I’ve seen only two other times as a beta tester: World of Warcraft and Ultima Online.
And still, a LOT of the fans of the original game won’t be getting 3 anywhere outside a bargain bin.
Bah keep P&R in P&R, we’re talkin’ games here. Brett’s opinion is perfectly valid, and he’s not being trollish about it. It’s a legit concern for some people.
The powergamer demographic is a real subset of the MMO fanbase, and their motto is “Lore lol”
Rasputin
2952
I was with you about Brett in this thread until the “Hurr durr dialog=timesink to take our moneys,” bit he posted. He can’t disagree, bring up cogent points or even just try to be funny. He can’t help but try to troll, and people should just not pay any attention to him.
On topic, seeing as how I haven’t seen an email yet and a million-billion testers is a lot of people to download a client, I’m doubting the test will be for this weekend. If they stick to the “this month” thing, the only option left is Thanksgiving weekend, in which case I hope the servers go live earlier than 5pm CST on Friday.
Strangely enough, some RPG fans don’t like shooters with mild RPG elements.
Also, honestly, the most concerning thing I’ve heard about TOR is the 4-person groups. Really? If anything, I prefer 6 to 5…
Dude is shell-shocked I think from the beatings he takes in P&R. Regardless, I think we should keep that nonsense contained to that forum!
Let’s focus our negativity here on EA.
They’re well deserved beatings. And if he’s going to start posting with gotcha zingers in here like he does over there, he’s gonna get more of them. I just advise everyone to put him on ignore and not respond to him. Every time anyone has engaged him on a topic when he’s being reasonable, he rapidly spirals into insults and not responding to questions about his views without above mentioned zingers, gotchas or insults.
I’m all for what happens in P&R staying in P&R, but when you post in exactly the same style everywhere… well, you get what you get.
I wonder if they’re going to schedule the big stress test on T-day weekend on purpose, since a hojillion beta testers is a lot, but this way they can pare that number down some with folks being out of town, etc. to keep the test from possibly being an automatic failure of their hardware out of the gate.
In spite of my skepticism, I’ll most likely buy this game upon release. I did the same thing with TIE Fighter when it came out (I wish I’d kept the hat they sent me with the pre-release order), and that turned out to be one of the best games of the decade. I will hope that this is something similar.
You were skeptical about TIE Fighter? Why, did you hate X-Wing?
That’s the thing. WAR had a great beta buzz- I was following along on the WHA forums at the time (since they didn’t have official ones). The NDA was up till very close to release.
It’s basically why I don’t take beta buzz seriously anymore. Even FFXIV had a hardcore beta fan contingent: its only if you read between the lines (and reports from the other, less motivated batch of people who hadn’t drunk the Koolaid) you could tell how it was going to go down. For a game like WAR though, the general impression was very positive.
There’s not much compelling positive reason (positive for the players, not EA) for leaving the NDA up this close to release. DotA 2 is out and about months from release. Diablo 3 same thing. WoW itself had no NDA for its 6+ month beta, only its Alpha.
flem1
2960
Except, you know, the one thing Bioware has been pushing ad nauseam since announcing this game.
