3581

One really minor gripe about the Revan book: it never mentions Carth. Like, at all.

3582

Oh it’s not a random person from kotor2 but the canonical name they’ve dubbed the player character Jedi exile.

3583

The book barely talks about revan, you can’t really expect it to talk about everyone’s least favorite party member.

Anyway, doesn’t swtor take place thousands of years after the events of kotor 1? I don’t think anyone really expected swtor to be connected to kotor more than being in the same general time period.

I don’t think revan was a terrible book, it just didn’t go anyway. It is almost like they took a pretty decent book, then cut out the first 5 chapters and the last 10 chapters. Naming it after the protagonist of a game who is basically only a minor character in the book is a pretty big bait and switch as well.

rei

The random person i am talking about is scourge. Most of the book, in my opinion is about scourge whom i don’t think is present in either kotor. He is just some mid level sith lord who has trouble killing DROIDS, just some random sith lord that kills the two most powerful jedi we’ve seen in this age. How many droids did i kill in kotor with revan and kotor 2 with the exile? Thousands?

The book is basically:
3/5 scourge
1/5 the exile
1/5 revan

3584

I’ve actually had this happen in WoW too, and I had friends who were having their settings wiped fairly frequently (like once a night or two), and this was in 4.2.

That’s not to excuse it from happening in ToR, but just pointing out that even a game like WoW can have similar issues after 7+ years.

3585

Which is just another reason why the game should have a robust method of importing/exporting your profile settings, so you can quickly get “up and running” on your multiple characters - if you wanted to. Or even share settings with others if the game ever let you customize the UI.

Regarding WOW at least there you could always back up your WTF Folder, as well as copy the files from the different acccount/server/charname folders if you decided to make a new character and wanted to copy some settings. Thats how we did it in the past with the config, bindings, chat and layout files.

I have no idea where the settings are even stored with SWTOR.
But I did find some cool files in the SWTOR/betatest/retailclient/temp folder. Logfiles that basically show your leveling history with timestamps and which companions you were using. Suppose you could use those to see if you’re quick or slow :)

Edit: Ouch, According to the log I had a gaming session that lasted 22 hours… :)

3586

Bingo. I put my WTF folder in my dropbox folder which handles versioning for the many times I needed to rollback something when the UI went bad.

3587

I’d assume swtor has to save your settings, somewhere.

3588

Yes.

I suppose I’ll have to run it with Process Monitor running to see if it goes anywhere else.

I checked under My Documents/My Games, where there is a Star Wars folder, but found nothing.

There was naught in the game folder
Programdata was equally void of any sign
And Appdata/Local, Roaming, etc…

Suppose the folder it saves it in, has a different name.

Or they are insane and are storing it in the registry, which I haven’t checked.

3589

I definitely found some files in appdata/local/swtor that look like configuration files, but they’re pretty basic with no signs of keybindings and such.

3590

I had a bitch fest on this a few pages back with Rasputin. He was much more accepting of the book than I was. Most of my problems with the book are those you pointed out, Murbella.

Revan Book Discussion

[spoiler]I was most disappointed by how easily Revan was beaten, TWICE. It was ridiculous and really robbed that character of his gravitas and badassitude. The book was very poorly done and read like bad fan fiction, as rei pointed out.

To be fair, Karpyshyn was in a tough position. He was obviously tasked with trying to marry the events of KOTOR 1 and 2, including having to explain why none of the KOTOR characters went with Revan into the Outer Rim and why he didn’t come back to help when the events of KOTOR 2 were unfolding. He also had to come up with a way for characters from the book and KOTOR games to still be around in TOR. Thus, at the end of the book Revan, Mitra and Scourge are all granted various forms of immortality. So fucking transparent and stupid. The novel clearly had many masters to serve and its true purpose wasn’t really to tell a complete, satisfying story, but to setup reasons why some characters could persist into the TOR timeline. I think this absolutely crippled the book and made it a huge disappointment overall. It wasn’t conceived as a story, but as a marketing tool and that really shows through.[/spoiler]

I agree that the ME books were terrible. The major problem with them, in my mind, is that they didn’t feature the characters I actually care about from the ME universe. The novels felt like meaningless side stories and just were not interesting.

Karpyshyn isn’t ever going to win the Pulitzer Prize, but I will say that I’m finding the first Darth Bane novel, Path of Destruction, to be very enjoyable. After Revan I was left hungry for a worthy Old Republic era story, so I figured I’d give it a shot. It takes place well after the events of KOTOR and TOR, but I guess it’s still technically the Old Republic era.

It’s a quick read and isn’t saddled with all the baggage that was clearly hanging around the neck of Karpyshyn’s Revan novel. The novel was obviously conceived as a story, not as a marketing tool, and didn’t have to jibe with the events of two games plus setup a third. Also, unlike the ME novels, the character featured is truly worthy of being the star of the show. Again, it’s not what anyone would call literature, but I’m certainly planning to go on to the next book in the series.

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I hated the book. I was especially annoyed when I reached the end of the story and my Kindle told me I had 30% left. Almost a third of the volume was devoted to excerpts from other books.

Granted I should have known I was in trouble when early on Revan says: “Let’s not and say we did.” in response to a question.

3592

I had that exact same experience and reaction. I thought I was going to get a true resolution to the story, turned the virtual page and saw that the novel was finished. That certainly added to my hatred of the book.

3593

Anyways, KOTOR and Jedi Outcast brought about my renewed love for all things Star Wars a few years ago. However, that was then crushed by me devouring the NJO books with those lame Yuuzhen Vong. It looks like the Revan novel has once again accomplished this.

If anything, how bad Drew Karpashyn is makes me appreciate Richard Naak, RA Salvatore and Christie Golden. Ugh.

3594

The Fate of the Jedi series is pretty good, at least in audio format.

3595

Besides the original Zahn novels, the Star Wars book I always remember being great was The Truce at Bakura. I don’t even remember the overall plot or what Luke and Han and Leia were doing. What I remember is the character of Dev Sibwarra, who was so sad and tragic. Even though I can’t bring to mind the details of his story, I do remember being very emotionally affected by it and actually caring about him. That’s quite a triumph in a Star Wars novel, of which I read many as a teenager.

3596

The first Yuuzhan Vong book was the point where I stopped reading Star Wars EU fiction.

3597

I actually posted something related to this in the Blu-Ray discussion in the movies forum; the EU itself has considerable appeal as an expansive fictional setting, particularly if you pick and choose the things you like and ignore all the dorky, inconsistent, illogical other stuff.

But the EU storytelling - the novels and comics - are mostly bad, and thought of as bad even by Star Wars fans. With the exception of Zahn (or to a lesser extent a few others) a glowing recommendation is usually “suchandsuch is alright.”

3598

The one thing I will give that series credit for is that it wasn’t afraid to kill off characters.

3599

Whelp, looks like it’s my turn to play SWTOR password games.

  1. They put it about on the forums that people would have to change passwords by date X.
  2. I changed passwords immediately, to the one I’ve used since then, for both the last beta weekends.
  3. A few days later they sent an “ok, change your password like we said” email, which I dutifully ignored having pre-empted it.
  4. Today they let me know that, due to my failure to change passwords, I was locked out of my account; “click here.”
  5. Fuck that, I’m going to SWTOR.com to do it
  6. Hahah, yeah I’m locked out. Ok, “forgot password” option.
  7. Which gets me a password reset email, which I click
  8. I make up and save a new password
  9. “Website queue” for 60s
  10. “Yay, all is well. We have logged you out for security purposes, please log back in.”
  11. Password doesn’t work. Fuck this noise, I’ll come back later.
3600

you need to add security question too.