nomaar
4961
I can relate to the over-leveling problem. I’ve been obsessive about completing each and every quest on a planet, and now I’m a level 23 Jedi Sage who’s barely halfway through Taris. I’ve also done a fair number of battlegrounds and a bunch of space missions (I got through level 21 solely through doing space missions. Took about a half hour). There’s so much to do that gains exp that it’s hard to keep at a proper pace with the quest line. At this rate, I may be doing nothing but gray quests by the time I’m lvl 40. I’m having a lot of fun, though, so it’s not too bad.
So, while this downtime is interupting my enjoyment of ToR, the boy and I have decided to do what any SW fan would do.
We’re watching Star Wars movies. =)
The wow ones are the worst though. Battle.net in general is just REALLY bad and now that wow is part of the fold officially…
The only possible way to make it worst would be to merge battle.net and gamefaqs and enforce a maximum age requirement of 13 years old.
They’re really the same as the TOR forums. That community has been pretty horrible to Bioware over the whole early access thing. Same bunch of whiny entitled jerks, different forum background.
Jakub
4965
My mistake, it’s what I get for jumping into the middle of a conversation.
That is partly because bioware handled it poorly* and partly because a lot of swtor players are wow players. Once they go back to wow it will get a bit better.
*Come on, letting people in by waves depending on when they preordered was a pretty bad idea and it didn’t even work as the queue times were still unacceptable. Obviously it wasn’t the end of the world and if it had worked, it might have been worth a pat on the back, but the multi hour queues greeting players after they were told they had to wait in order to ensure server stability was a pretty big stumble.
It doesn’t really matter if they are “WoW players” or “TOR players.” Truth is, they’re just MMO players. They’re both great games that appeal to a huge audience and the top 1% of the assholes in either community are going to crap up the forum to the point that it’s worthless but we’ll still read it because we want to go somewhere when we’re not playing that game that reminds us of playing the game.
Anyway, whatever. MMO forums suck. TOR is not special in this regard, it’s also not worse.
I’ve always found it best not to visit forums for mmo games unless I really need to.
You know, to see about downtimes or how to deal with or report a problem and then leave.
Becasue as has been mentioned, they are cesspools of mmo douche bags.
I’ve always used mmo-champion over any other forum for wow. I can read wade through the douches easier that way, and there are some helpful posts. In general though I avoid them. Avoid them like the black plague is there just waiting to infect me.
Elitist Jerks was by far the best source for WoW information (at least with respect to character builds and raid strategies), but they had an extremely heavy hand when it came to moderation. I wonder if that approach is necessary with they typical MMO audience.
maxle
4971
I only looked at the WoW tanking forums for specific things, and only for a few months, but it was nowhere near as bad as folks are saying. There was a fair amount of good material to be found.
Got in. Better hurry, i’d assume the only reason there is no queue is because the servers came up a little early.
Dejin
4975
Hey, The Harbringer is no longer 2nd in overpopulation. There’s 21 servers listed as full, 11 at very heavy. We’re only at heavy. I wonder if they did something hardware wise to help out?
IGJoe
4976
Folks are reporting going from 500+ spots in queue to suddenly getting in, so something’s going on.
When many of the best theorycrafters get banned for being helpful or violating a pet precept of one of the mods*? No, too harsh. It got to the point where a fair bit of Hunter theorycrafting got done (partly in a veterans forum) over at TKASomething, and then only the results posted on EJ. Then they gave Hunters focus, and I stopped playing them when basically every prediction of how it’d go wrong came true.
(*I was infracted twice ever, I’d add, basically for not providing enough analysis along with extensive logs FOR analysis by others. Which is, you know, rather useful. They’re still nuts on moderation.)
Everybody else seems to have lost interest and moved on, but I’m still amazed by the sheer cluelessness of this. It’s not just a failure to understand how game development works, but a more fundamental lack of comprehension on the basic workings of reality. Are you able to identify shapes and colors, or do you just see movement? Are you aware of your own mortality?
But really, you make an insightful point. They were totally going to make a sweet sweet UI, but the guy who does all that had to get pulled off to write another boring cut-scene that day. Of course BioWare/EA/LucasArts thought to hire another programmer, but that guy was too busy working the Customer Service forums because Carol got sick and the sound & graphics programmer was too busy pressing the CDs.
Razgon
4979
Hey, thats how it works in Game Dev Story ;-)
Nesrie
4980
My personal experience is a queue is no more than a 15-20 minute wait time. I think there is always room for improvement of course, but as far as releases go… this seems pretty darn clean to me. Maybe I am used to the buggy, barely working, lucky it doesn’t explode in your hand kind of games the MMO genre pumps out, and a part of the gaming industry seems to love, but the bugs, the crashes, the waits… every thing seems pretty mild in comparison.
I think transparency would have help with some of the community reactions, but transparency only works when you know what you are going to do… not sure Bioware was 100% on how they were going to proceed for a bit.
