I know Disney wanted to reboot the Star Wars canon for the movies, especially all the shenanigans from the EU novels, namely the Solo kids and the death of Chewbacca. The irony isn’t lost as they killed off the main 3 from the OT in 2 movies. To be fair though, I don’t know how long they were planning on keeping Leia around though.
And also, she didn’t die. I guess they’ll have to kill her, since the actress died, but the character is still alive at the end of the movie.
None of that stuff was ever canon. Lucas was pretty clear about EU books and comics being a separate thing.
Right, sorry. I suppose it was canon to the EU alone then. It was never canon to the OT or the Prequels.
Apologies in advance for the dumb questions, since I don’t know anything about the EU.
Was the EU canon for the Jedi Knight games? The excellent Jedi Knight had a really bad expansion called Mysteries of the Sith, and I heard that had a character from the EU.
All of it was canon, wasn’t it? Lucasfilm even had a guy dedicated to making sure that anything you wanted to create as licensed Star Wars content – whether that was a TV show or comic book or action figure – didn’t conflict with anything else already created or planned to be created in the future.
It was only when Disney bought it that they reduced the canon to just the films.
(possible we’re working off different connotations of “canon.”)
Oh, come on. It was “canon”. AKA, buy these books, they’re totally the future of the movies, yeah, really, forceless S&M aliens from outside the Galaxy, dropping a moon on Chewie, yadda yadda, buy this book!
AKA, canon until a new movie came out.
There was different levels of Star Wars “canon” before Disney. Officially, Lucas said the only true canon for Star Wars were his theatrical movies, and only the most recent versions. Basically the prequel movies and the original trilogy rereleases. He modified that somewhat by adding The Clone Wars (CG) series, but he was careful to maintain that he reserved the right to supersede that. For a while Lucas said the Clone Wars (Tartakovsky) series was canon, but he rolled that back just before the CG series started.
All the other media, books, comics, TV specials, old cartoons, even the infamous Chistmas Special was not part of Lucas’ canon. That said, he still required it all to go through Lucasfilm’s licensing and canon managers, but that was more for protecting the brand than any story continuity. For example, Lucas was really finicky about lightsaber colors. Good Jedi could never have red blades. Stuff like that.
But there was an additional couple of levels of canon, largely determined by author fiat and fan acceptance. Trioculous, Palpatine’s EU mutant three-eyed son, was not considered EU canon. Droids the 80’s cartoon, was not canon, but The Great Heep, a character from the show was. It was rather confusing.
The interesting part about Star Wars EU stuff is that since a lot of it was 30+ years old (much of it originating with the old West End p&p RPG) kids that grew up on it got jobs in the industry and started inserting it into the post-Disney canon. This is why Sienar Fleet Systems, manufacturers of the TIE fighters is canon, despite never actually being mentioned in the movies.
Finally saw this as a rental. The first part is pretty rote, almost mirroring ESB (training with Yoda/Luke, getting out of a pickle by going to a casino/cloud city, trying to turn Rey/Luke etc. etc.).Then the stupid suicide hyperspace jump marks deviation.
Yeah why did no one thought of that when dealing with the Death Star??? As people said before it was totally nonsensical. At least Leia force pull herself can be justified by bloodline (!).
Snook again is big question mark that was never answered. Just who the hell is he? Gollum with force? And why is the hax0r in the cell and not on the casino floor? Etc. Etc. So many questions that were never answered.
It is interesting Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford have the same vocal for 20-30 years but Carrie Fisher’s voice changed beyond recognition. Smoked too much?
She did a lot of drugs and alcohol, and it caught up with her.
I think she had plastic surgery that kept her from moving her lips/mouth properly too.
I really liked most of Rogue One (huge Felicity Jones fan here!), but the tropical island base never seemed plausible to me. “How do they protect themselves from hurricanes and tsunamis? How can they build so close to the water? Why can’t certain types of EM radiation escape the planetary shield?” This kind of stuff ruined the movie for me.
Why did no-one think of anything until someone did? Did you think of that when you watched the original film?
So are you saying the rebels thought of that when they were thinking of destroying Death Star and went ‘yeah nah bro it won’t work’?
No; I’m saying maybe they didn’t think of it, and was wondering why people are so hung up that when they likely didn’t think of it themselves when watching the original film. It didn’t seem to me like something out of the standard Alliance tactical manual…
Asking ‘why didn’t they think of it 30 years ago!’ doesn’t seem like a question anyone can really answer. Someone usually has to be the first to think of something, and in this case I guess it was Holdo.
I think you’re over-thinking this.
Okay, how about ‘no-one thought about it 30 years ago because then we wouldn’t get the trench run and Luke using the force to win the day’? :)
I just think it’s a funny thing to complain about. It’s like being hung up on why no-one else thought how to beat Kobayashi Maru before Kirk did. Or kind of expecting that the new movies are only allowed to use ideas that have previously been used in the older films.
Heh. It reminds me of this tale that Columbus was in a bar after returning from discovering the New World, and it had been many years, and lots of ships were now going to the new World. And someone came up to Columbus and said he could have done what Columbus did. Columbus replied by taking an egg, and telling him to make it stand on the table without it rolling. The guy couldn’t do it, it kept toppling over and rolling. Then Columbus took the egg and slightly broke the base to form a more solid flat surface. Then he put it down, and it stayed there, didn’t roll. He said there you go. Once you know how to do it, any idiot can do it.
I’m going by EU so it probably isn’t canon, but hyperspace travel has been around for THOUSANDS of years. So why did no one in that THOUSANDS of years thought of using hyperspace jumping as a weapon?
Inconceivable!
Yeah that’s what I was getting at. Hindsight is 20:20, as they say. :)