Stardock owns Star Control and is planning an "XCOM-like" reboot


#261

The link is blocked by my work’s filter, as being in the ‘Sex’ category! Now I’m even more intrigued…


#262

Can someone give me a quick run down on how Star Control plays. Is it similar to Space Rangers? I watched some Youtube videos and I had not idea what I was looking at. Help a brother out with a quick and dirty description of gameplay.

Thanks in advanced.


#263

In Star Control’s combat, you control a ship. You can rotate the ship to the left and right (or clockwise and counterclockwise), you can hit thrust to move the ship forward, and you have two weapon or ability buttons. So five buttons in all. Left, Right, Thrust, Fire, Special ability. You’re on a 2D plane, fighting around a planet. The planet’s gravitational field will affect you if you get close. With a smaller ship you can get into orbit.

Meanwhile, what makes the game really special is that these aren’t just ships from Star Wars or Star Trek or Wing Commander or Descent: Freespace. These are really imaginative ships with lots of interesting abilities and properties.

Now, that’s melee/combat in Star Control. In Star Control 2 and 3, they also had an adventure where you’re exploring the galaxy, meeting other races, engaging in combat and diplomacy. But the core of the gameplay is that melee mode, and it is so, so good.


#264

To expand a little:

All three games (at least the versions I’ve played - Sega Genesis port of SC1, Ur-Quan Masters open-source project on PC of SC2, and original PC-DOS release of SC3) have some sort of meta-strategic mode to compliment the tactical.

In SC1, it was a very basic map of stars that you could slowly spread bases over while fighting it out in Melee combat all over the place. There was some VERY loose story about the ongoing war against the Ur-Quan, but most of that played out more in the manual than the game itself.

In SC2, the story picked up after the loss to the Ur-Quan, and was a little bit like an adventure game in space. As you explored star systems with your (growing) fleet, you’d get to engage in diplomacy with aliens and hunt down mysteries. To keep yourself flying, you also had to engage in a planetary lander mini-game, where riskier, harder-to-navigate planets usually bore out larger resource rewards to let you build and maintain a fleet comprised of ships from the alien races you’d convinced to join your crusade. Conflicts were handled in Melee, as above.

SC3 was taken over by another developer at the publisher’s behest, and their background was strongly in adventure games, so that side of the game became much more focused and obvious; I recall more than a little fiddly item-combining to slot into just the right quests to progress the story, which featured a daring journey to the center of the galaxy where a whole new cast of villains and allies awaited alongside most of the old standby’s. The planetary lander minigame was replaced by a somewhat involved 4X-style map-conquest mode, like a more-advanced version of what SC1 featured, where you’d find planets suitable for allied races’ colonists and then build them bases that would help produce fuel, ships, crew, etc., when you visited the worlds again. Due to major liberties taken with the story, most fans regard this as a missed opportunity.

SC:O looks like it’s modeling itself most directly after SC2, so planetary lander minigame (now in seamless orbit-to-surface-3D!) for resource management, plus lots of alien diplomacizing and ship-blowing-up via Melee. More like SC3, it will feature a lot of original races, as Stardock doesn’t own the rights to the SC1/2-era races (those belong to the game’s creators), and they probably don’t want to taint their game with the SC3-born characters that are so (maybe unfairly) reviled. Galactic exploration will probably be key, and light mystery solving, dialogue-tree traversal, and fleet-building-and-maintenance should all feature on some level or another.

It’s also highly moddable, or at least was planned to be, so alternate campaigns, races, ships, etc., can all be slotted in by the most dedicated players. If it’s as good as they said it would be a few months ago, I wouldn’t be surprised to see efforts made to eventually do a Total Conversion of SC2, at least. I mean, assuming there are enough talented 3D modelers and animation riggers out there who love SC2 enough to dedicate dozens or hundreds of man-hours to recreating all the races that Stardock isn’t gonna touch. . .


#265

Thanks to both of you that helps quite a bit. I guess now I can get hyped.


#266

thanks


#267

There’s an interview with Brad with [a]listdaily on Star Control: Origins. :)

http://www.alistdaily.com/strategy/stardocks-strategy-bringing-star-control-back/


#268

I just wanna play. . .

weeps forever


#269

Good article. I see the biggest challenge Stardock is going to face is older gamers saying “Why didn’t you just redo SC2 with new story?!”. Knowing that Stardock is respecting the original designers wishes to someday go back and continue their own stories will be important.


#270

Great article! Thanks!


#271

Still cautiously optimistic.


#272

If only those god danged Skylanders would stop making them so much money!


#273

Actually, strike the qualifier. I bought the Founder’s edition in october, so I am committed to optimism.


#274

I still regret NOT buying in. :/


#275

It is odd that it is being described as respecting their wishes, like there was a choice in the matter. Perhaps that would have still been the case, but I’m pretty sure that what Stardock bought didn’t give them the rights to do it. I remember there being discussion it about when the sale was announced.


#276

Stardock only got the rights to the name, not the actual content.

There are some comments beneath this RPS article, which don’t give any sources. This forum thread seems to offer more solid discussion. Atari never owned the SC2 stuff, but they may have owned SC3 wholly, so Stardock could conceivably use races from that game?


#277

I know you love space, but it’s a little early to regret your lack of founder’s backing, isn’t it? :)


#278

I dunno!!


#279

Brad has a new Star Control journal out and takes a look at our huge galaxy and how to duplicate that in a game.

http://www.stardock.com/games/article/484418/space-is-really-really-big


#280

Probably the case, but a good decision to not do so.