Steam Stuff - What Has the Digital Distribution Giant Done Lately?


#462

Sure, you don’t want to be convicted of promoting obscenity across state lines or whatever.


#463

Steam officially drops the hammer on Rape Day.

After significant fact-finding and discussion, we think ‘Rape Day’ poses unknown costs and risks and therefore won’t be on Steam.

We respect developers’ desire to express themselves, and the purpose of Steam is to help developers find an audience, but this developer has chosen content matter and a way of representing it that makes it very difficult for us to help them do that.


#464

It’s like the got an accountant to write this post.


#465

So that’s great, but they should amend their policy so it doesn’t say anything not forbidden is allowed, and only illegal and trolling is forbidden.


#466

Valve’s unofficial policy is “we’ll let everything through, unless the public outrage gets too bad, then we’ll act” no matter what they print.


#467

They’ll have to sell it on 8steam.


#468


#469

Big surprise. Steam may not articulate a policy, but they have one. Or they better have one.


#470

It may be smart for Steam to not have an official policy, especially one that is published. No matter what they create there will always be two groups complaining about it. The first are the SJWs who will complain that some aspect of the policy is not specific enough or did not address a particular issue. The second are the 4chan trolls who will complain about how Steam is preventing free speech and catering to the carebears (or whatever term is in vogue for them at the moment). Meanwhile, someone will make a game that should be banned but will somehow circumvent the policy that Steam will then have to modify and the whole cycle of crying and recriminations starts all over again.

To avoid this they may be better off with Justice Potter Stewart’s obscenity policy of “I know it when I see it”. That may make for poor legal framework but is quite useful for a private company in dealing with something like this.


#471

We’re still using that term? Why?


#472

Because the term “SJW” has gone out of style.


#473

It never was in style, it was just a good way to identify the angry gamers living in their mother’s basement. Kind of thought Qt3 was above that crap.


#474

Well you can see how often I use it since I did not get it right the first time. I am sure it is out of style along with carebear or 4chan troll but then again I do not bother keeping up with the current lunatic fringe terms.


#475

I was randomly watching John Carmack’s Oculus Connect 5 talk and he talked about how it’s sad that Oculus can’t give feedback when they reject your app but he understand why that’s the case. The problem app stores have is if they reject your application and give you reasons why, developers will directly address those items and complain if they get rejected again saying “but we did everything you told us”.

I guess none of the app stores want to have purely objective criteria, which gives them flexibility to reject people that purposely try to skirt the intent of the rules.


#476

Ah, don’t take Carebear from me. How else will I be able to describe people who don’t play on the PvP servers?


#477

That’s wishful thinking. If you hangout out in Politics and Religion, you start to get the impression that most of the people are reasonable to some degree although trolls exist. Then you hoop into Movies, and someone posts about Captain Marvel, or Wonder Women, or something with a strong female or minority protagonist, and you realize, nope, even Qt3 has a lunatic fringe.

And then you pop into the thread about medieval Europe, and you realize it’s worse than you thought. Then, you only feel sadness.


#478

Fine, feel free to substitute whatever term you prefer for extremists on opposite ends of the spectrum. The point is that Steam could never please either group and do not need the headache so they are better off not having the whole conversation in the first place.


#479

That seems like it would be a legitimate complaint. Because if it is rejected again, clearly the reason is not the one you gave.


#480

We’re still using this insult? Why?


#481

It’s evocative.