Steve Bannon and the Alt-Right

I figured this guy deserves his own thread at this point. So, here to kick it off, is an article about his involvement with Biosphere 2.

Scientists broke into the dome to sound the alarm about Bannon’s involvement

This one’s a huge “OH SHIT” for scientists: Tampering with an in-progress experiment and contaminating the entire dome.

I haven’t dug too much into the reporting of the “Alt-Right”, but I’m having trouble understanding why they’re calling them that, and not Neo_nazis or “ultra-Nationalists”. Is there a reason people are blunting their description, or is it calling horrible people a nicer name since Trump isn’t denouncing them? Or what.

There’s a whole gamut from channer trolls to libertarian right all the way up to full on National Socialists and 25 point programs and rants about DNA and racial purity.

The ones nearer the centre like conspiracy theorist Paul Watson from PrisonPlanet and MRA/douchebag Cernovich have been desperately trying to separate themselves from the Nazis but they’ve left behind an entire library of comments and video of them proudly proclaiming themselves as Alt Right so don’t let them set the narrative and keep calling them Nazis until its stuck.

Please call them Nazis.

I don’t know. I think Fascists Racists might be more appropriate. Not all of them are Nazis per say. Remember, Mussolini wasn’t a Nazis, instead he was a member of the National Fascist Party of Italy.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/307462-trump-adviser-tells-house-republicans-youre-no-longer-reagans-party

Donald Trump’s economic adviser Stephen Moore told a group of top Republicans last week that they now belong to a fundamentally different political party.

Moore surprised some of the Republican lawmakers assembled at their closed-door whip meeting last Tuesday when he told them they should no longer think of themselves as belonging to the conservative party of Ronald Reagan.

They now belong to Trump’s populist working-class party, he said.

At some point, folks who considered themselves conservatives while supporting trump need to consider whether they have made a terrible mistake.

The flipside is true though, if the Republicans make this switch fully, they could gain some Bernie supporters. I think the Bernie or Bust crowd might have flipped MI at a minimum.

I mean their first clue should have probably been when he didn’t support many conservative ideals. The only “conservative” things he “supported” were social conservative stuff and he never made any real issues of most of them. Fiscally… yeah no. He wants to massively inflate the debt and start trade wars.

Edit: Trump may actually be the death of conservatism in America. Authoritarians will adopt the name (hell they already have), but actual conservative ideas could be dead. I mean if the election was a mandate on political ideologies, conservatism didn’t even really show up for it. In the “conservative” party they lost a chance to even step up to the plate and then that guy won… against the person who was arguably more of a conservative than he was in a lot of ways. And some think he won because of her links to conservatism.

This is why I think Ryan is going to go for the home run the next 2-8 years- I think he knows this might be his last chance. The backlash against Trump is not going to be economically conservative- and might even be socialistic depending on who wins the upcoming Dem Civil War.

alt-right = neo-nazis.

Grab--------them by----------pussy
Seize-------the-----------------means of production

I think you’ve all misread Trump. As have the neo-nazis. Comrade Trump’s reign will be interesting indeed.

“Seize the means of reproduction”?

Bannon and Trump, among quite a few others such Coulter or ‘MILO’, are just opportunists. They saw a political niche and went with it. I doubt they imagined it would lead to thw White House. The scary people, who actually believe most of the alt-right garbage, do not have a champion… yet.

If Trump messes up the economy, one such man might rise up and, to quote Hellboy, he will ‘cross over and then we will be sorry…’.

From the AP:

[quote]
“Alt-right” (quotation marks, hyphen and lower case) may be used in quotes or modified as in the “self-described” or “so-called alt-right” in stories discussing what the movement says about itself.

Avoid using the term generically and without definition, however, because it is not well known and the term may exist primarily as a public-relations device to make its supporters’ actual beliefs less clear and more acceptable to a broader audience. In the past we have called such beliefs racist, neo-Nazi or white supremacist.[/quote]

[quote]
Be specific and call it straight

Finally, when writing on extreme groups, be precise and provide evidence to support the characterization.

We should not limit ourselves to letting such groups define themselves, and instead should report their actions, associations, history and positions to reveal their actual beliefs and philosophy, as well as how others see them.[/quote]

I disagree on Bannon, pretty sure he’s a true believer. Trump doesn’t have any ideology outside of Trump, but he is very easily swayed.

The media shouldn’t have to tell the public that a racist who says he is not a racist… is still a racist. And whether anyone likes it or not, if you hang around racists and support racist, you’re not only supporting racism but probably racist yourself.

I’ve been saying this for a fucking year, and folks keep making excuses, because people don’t want to admit there are so many fucking racists.

But guess what folks? THERE ARE A LOT OF FUCKING RACISTS.