Surviving Mars - Paradox Strategy


Did you mean that it is hard or not hard enough? The campaign was a cakewalk in #4 (as much as I played of it). It was pretty hard to fail even if I knew I wasn’t playing optimally.


As in hey are not as hard as Tropico 1 or 2 campaigns and scenarios, but the visuals and theme remained good. I think they just needed to offer some options with difficulty. 3,4 and 5… i don’t think they let the series bake long enough before they pumped out the others but I still enjoyed them…


Tropico 3 and 4 are amazing and you are all monsters. 5 is an utter turd, though.

I thought Haemimont was owned at least in part by Kalypso. Turns out maybe not? Good for them, I suppose.


Why is 5 a turd? I thought most people were simply unhappy because it just wasn’t much more than what 4 already was, not that there was something fundamentally wrong with it…


They put a big emphasis on combat (including a bunch of “you must win this battle to progress” scripted stuff) but the combat was if anything worse - you’d have tanks stuck on the other side of the island while your palace was being burnt to the ground. Just dumb.


They did a pretty good job with the pure city-builder parts of Tropico, but not with politics, combat, or staying true to the tone of the original. Hopefully in this new game there will be more of an emphasis on city-building. And without having the name Tropico to live up to, I’ll be a lot more forgiving if it’s not a masterpiece.


I hope it turns out better than the Atari version of E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial.


I hope it turns out to be as good as Kingdom of Kroz.


Looks…pretty good so far.


I am so glad that my life has led me to a place where I’m not trying to stream gameplay of a survival crafter from the Gamescom floor.


I remain cautiously optimistic.


To my great surprise this is coming out… very soon? really? This really crept up on me.

Release Date: March 15th

Here are some youtube ‘preview’ letsplays:



That looks really good actually. Thank you.


The game looks very interesting to me, even though I would have preferred something nearer future (like the Martian move except with more people) than the tech here.

One concern I have is with replay value. As I understand it, there is no campaign mode and the change with each play through is starting conditions (by changing sponsor), map randomisation, and some randomness in the tech tree. Anyone know if there’s anything else? Might not have the hours of fun to justify $40 for me.


In Quill’s video preview he mentioned that they also random the “mystery” per-playthrough, which is the late-game quest. We won’t be able to evaluate if that solves the replayability issue until we know how many options it’s choosing from and how different they are from each other.


Looks interesting, but I don’t see any reason to preorder. Did I miss something?


Does this game have a demo? I ask because I swear I have played it before.


No demo I know of. I will wait for reviews, as the Tropic Dev’s are hit or miss for me.

I saw 10% discount on Steam for Cities Skylines owners.


Man, too bad I am on a restricted Budget right now. This looks really interesting.