6401

Snap!

6402

The lady at the DMV at first didn’t understand what it said… but then after she saw the plates, she couldnt help giggling and laughing and shaking her head.

She advised me the plates might attract the attention of vandals, and that I could purchase replacement plates if any of them were stolen. I actually hadn’t thought about vandalism when I ordered them.

6403

I know! You have me all figured out. I was the pledge master in my frat in college, and just can’t let the good times stop. And you’re absolutely right, Demon G Sides and I met at a frat party and I pointed him to this forum so we agree on everything. I go around hurling beer bottles at girls who don’t meet my standards of hotness and wear “Big Johnson” and “No Fat Chicks” tshirts down to hooters. Oh, and any girl I meet that’s not interested in me? Lesbian. Did I forget anything?

The Rippin’ and the Tearin’. The Rippin’ and the Tearin’.

…

The thing about humor is, everyone is a target. No matter what joke you make, from say, “Izod wearing collar poppin’” to “fat chick” to “die in a fire” to “mother’s basement living”, everyone fits it if the audience is large enough. Everyone. Every can get offended at something. So if, for instance, you make a “fat chick” joke, someone comes along and says “Hey! You didn’t know this, but I’m a fat chick!” and tries to shame you into directing your public humor elsewhere because man, that shit HURTS and you have no idea, and this is the next sacred cow. But that’s not how humor works. We don’t protect every subset of humanity because they are sensitive. If we do that, that demographic becomes petulant narcissists, controlling how people interact with each other because of their uncomfortable presence.

What’s dickish is saying specifically … “YOU ARE FAT. Here, I shall make a joke about it.” That’s not what I, or John Many Jars did. We made a joke that was broad and sweeping in its target. Just like when Flowers make a pedophilia joke. He doesn’t say “Hey, poster X, was your kid molested? Let me make a joke about your kid”. He says “the thing about children is, they are such selfish lovers.” Do you see the difference? It’s picking on someone versus making a crude joke.

The difference is being able to separate yourself from the rest of humanity. It’s coping mechanisms and self-centeredness. It’s realizing that not everything is about you, even if a joke being made somehow fits some demographic you identify with. I can listen to Dave Chappele make a joke about “This is why white people are stupid” without self identifying Dave Chappele as being an asshole and attacking me directly. If you are so wrapped up in the issues and trails of the demographic you identify with that no one can make a joke about it, you will be unhappy for your whole life. My advice to you is to make a crass joke back about it, without attacking the person directly. It’s how we all intermingle without being boring cliches of human resource managers.

One last thing. Since I know KNOW that there are some posters on here that self identify as “fat chicks” I will never make a “fat chick” joke again. To my knowledge I only made that one joke, in this thread. Maybe I’d made more, you’ll have to find them, I honestly don’t remember. I will do this in the name of sensitivity. But I ask you to look at all the jokes made in this forum in the next few weeks and think hard about who they affect and who possibly could be offended by them, and what an uncomfortable and boring place it would make it if we eliminated humor in the name of not offending anyone.

6404

I don’t know whether to put this in homebrew, bees or here :)

A local micro brewery is taking some of my honey to produce a beer with, in exchange I get a cask of the stuff once they’ve brewed it. I’m quite surprised just how little they want given the quantity of beer involved but having tried a few, the beers with a hint of honey are far nicer than those where it’s the predominant flavour.

6405

You should make some mead!

6406

Dave Chapelle, Flowers and John Many Jars were telling jokes. It could even be said that your ‘fat girls aren’t fun to ride’ comment was also a joke, though it really just was a variation on what JMJ said which got rid of the comparison to a scooter so had little of the potential for humor. Still, a joke’s a joke, even if it’s a bad one. That said, in response to Leah pointing out that she wrote a serious article on fat phobia and fatists, is…

…really a joke?

6407

No, it’s not. It’s where we cross over from joking to discussion. We’ve had discussions about the obesity problem in this forum again and again, see every weight loss thread, or thread about Kevin Smith not being able to board an airplane, or Fat Princess game, etc.

6408

YES, THIS. And do you ship to San Diego, Nellie?

6409

I’m definitely intending to now I’ve finally tried the stuff and seen how, relatively, easy it seems to be to make but I’d be a liar if I said the thought of a proper cask of beer wasn’t more enticing. It brews quicker than mead too so I’ll have it a lot quicker.

6410

That’s definitely true, but one batch of mead ensures that you have something special, made of your own hard work, to celebrate special occasions for years to come. So there’s some appeal in that. Just don’t do what I did and start a batch before having to move across country and tossing it to avoid having an enormous mess.

6411

Simple solution is to just make both!

My cousin is HUGE into making his own meads and beers. He makes the best beet beer (ok, the only beet beer) I’ve ever had… He’s now using whatever he can find growing locally and giving it a shot. Some of the wildflower variations weren’t great…

6412

Yeah, mead takes a long time. REALLY long if you’d believe the purists. I much prefer the turnaround time of beer, personally! ;-)

First thing I ever tried to brew was Mead - it didn’t come out very good but I also had no idea what I was doing. That experienced prompted me to learn!

6413

Re: The “fat jokes” discussion

I think it comes down to what is considered in poor taste for humor. I look at it this way:

  • making fun of what someone is, meaning that which they have no control over: ethnicity, congenital or accidental physical handicaps, situations out of their control - that’s usually in bad taste. Examples: demeaning ethnic jokes, mocking kids with Down Syndrome, jokes at the expense of disaster victims. They can be funny, but that’s kind of the definition of bad taste.

  • making fun of what someone does, meaning something they do have control over, is absolutely fair game. Culture, religion, ignorance, stupidity, actions they take - all fair game.

It’s a matter of perspective as to where you consider jokes at the expense of fat people to fall. In many cases - hey, if they got themselves that way, it’s a free-fire zone. Sometimes you need to accept that actions might have socially-unacceptable consequences. If it’s something like “Hey, so-and-so has a thyroid malfunction and can’t exercise as much as they should because of a knee injury”, yeah, have some sympathy.

Frankly, from my point of view, if someone’s overweight and in poor health (the two are NOT synonymous, mind you) due to personal failings like bad habits or neglect? They fall into the same category as the folks in the Darwin Awards. Open season, man.

6414

I actually only stuck my head in here to see if Hanzii had anything to say. Kraaze will understand, he made the same mistake I did. :)

6415

Fat-bottomed girls, you make the rockin’ world go 'round!

Get on your bikes and ride!

6416

Back off, UK residents should get priority shipping ! (We already asked him to send us some honey but he’s clearly decided to start his mead-brewing empire and ignore our inconsequential orders)

6417

Both?
There’s the logistics to consider, in a fairly small house, of trying to do beer and mead and have all the kit to extract the honey in the first place. A couple of demi-johns of mead isn’t too much of a problem, but if they’re happy to let me have a full cask (30 odd pints I think) of their beer in exchange for the honey, I’m happy to let them. :) I like beer and that’s £100 or so of the stuff (retail) in exchange for £25 (wholesale) of honey that I don’t have to put into Jars.

6418

. . . and it may just be that ElG’s nerd cred has finally been overwhelmed by his seemingly goodhearted yet laughably cookie-cutter doucheness. And I don’t mean that he’s being a mean douche, just that, you know, he exhibits all the same characteristics. The womanizing, the sports cars, the offhand references to his income, etc. I think he comes by it honestly and unawares, but now the patina of ‘hey, at least one of us is getting laid’ has worn thin.

My advice? Do another X-Com game and you should be good to go at least up until the midlife crisis.

H.

6419

Yeah, I didn’t mean to suggest it was super rare. But a lot of companies don’t use it. I’m not sure Fender makes anything with it. The Gibson’s are custom, aren’t they? Or at least not Les Pauls, AFAIK. Parker is an odd duck anyway. PRS has stopped making Swamp Ash, mostly. This is a 25th anniversary special. Still, point taken. I should have just said less common.

6420

I was hoping to finish off the Allotment honey this weekend, but having gone up tonight the recent weathers been worse than I thought and they’ve eaten a fair bit of it! Still a few frames that can be extracted though and then I promise I’m going to jar it up and try and sort a proper QT3 label out.

The mead, if it happens, will be made using the last of the honey washed off the wax cappings and any left over that wont fill up a jar :)