4401

Is the friend not ever aware that she’s being wing-manned as opposed to being hit on? Are they all that stupid?

(Okay, now I’m looking back to see if I’ve ever been wing-manned…)

4402

The difference being that “wingman” sounds cool and exciting, while the MMO verbiage sounds unfathomably retarded.

4403

You gotta use the right words for the right audience.

4404

A description in song:

4405

If the wingman does his job well, it’s shouldn’t be too transparent. It’s really just a matter of smiling and striking up a conversation and maybe buying a drink of three. Not a complex task.

That being said, I’ve seen it done horribly badly. Since I wasn’t involved, it was fun to laugh at.

4406

I have never witnessed the wingman thing.

Yesterday I went over to the ex’s (it seems funny to call him an ex since we only dated for two weeks, albeit a very intense two weeks) to have some photos taken. I have previously established that the camera is an evil device that hates me and everything about me, so I was prepared to discard most or even all of the results. But I figured, if anyone can do justice to me on (virtual) film, it would be someone who actually found me attractive.

To my surprise, I thought several of the photos were not bad and changed my primary photo on PoF and another site last night as a result. Today I got a message on PoF from someone: “Nice new photo”. Zounds.

I’ve requested another round of photo-taking, given this preliminary success. Also, we made out, which is maybe not the best approach to post-breakup.

4407

Not healthy!

4408

Quiet, you!

4409

Creole, can we see this new picture of you, as well as the old one? You didn’t seem like an uggo, so I imagine that it’s just about you looking natural.

4410

Alright so it has been two weeks since we last posted. Gonna give you guys a rundown on what has been happening.

After our first poly group, we went on a couple date with the couple that runs it. Very nice people and liked them A LOT. Good intelligent conversation and we asked tons of questions about the lifestyle. I went on a single date (spent the whole afternoon with her) a couple days later. They left for a vacation about a week ago and they haven’t got back yet.

We then attended our second polyamory discussion group. The couple that runs it wasn’t there, and so it didn’t go so well. A single women was there and I think she had the hots for my wife because the whole time she was shooting down everything I say. I would say “I told Jen that she could date other men if she wanted to”. The chicks response “So by telling her you must be a dominator.” I was like WTF? I finally had to tell her to back off which she did which kinda made me prove her point I guess. There was a guy there being a dick too (think he has a thing for Jen as well.) but I told him I would break his fucking fingers (he flicked a cup at me). Not fun at all. But we are going to continue to go. I think those two realized they crossed a boundry with me. We will see!

Then we attended a swingers camping thing on North Shore last weekend. That was weird for us. It was a two day camping trip but we only stayed Friday night. It was Jen and I and what eventually ended up being two other couples. We definitely found out we were not into the group thing which reaffirmed our belief that we are definitely poly and not swingers. Conversation was good but we were not attracted to either couple so when they started going at it, Jen and I were not cool with swapping. We did give them a show though which they couldn’t help but watch (Jen’s idea). Glad we brought our own tent though. Oh and I could kill fucking roosters now without a second thought.

So we left and came home…pretty much homebodies the rest of the weekend.

Then on Monday, we went on our first real date (not a blind meet up) with another couple. Older couple (She is 42; he is 48). Jen wasn’t to keen on it but they were so laid back, easy going, and the conversation was so fluid and non-forced, we couldn’t help but like them. Spent hours just talking to them.

Then we went to a swingers meeting group because another couple invited us to it. They also invited another couple as well. We got there a little early and it was kinda weird for us. They didn’t ask us questions and I tried starting up general conversation and go nowhere fast. When the couple who invited us showed up with the other couple, the six of us went out for drinks. Both those other couples are definitely swingers (and are good looking with caucasion men and petite asian wives) but at list they like good conversation which was refreshing. Jen and I will probably hook up with them shortly but doubt it will be a long term thing with either one.

We have another couple date tonight up on North Shore. Even though the guy says he is 39 (I am 37 and Jen is 32), he looks older. His wife is asian and petite. Really cute but worried how my wife is gonna react to him. Give you guys an update on that one later.

We been really hitting it off with another couple in Kauai and will be going over there for one night on the 10th. We been txting and talking on the phone and they both really like us. She is Hawaiian/Japanese and he is White. But Jen and I definitely have a connection with those two and looking forward to actually meeting them in person rather than swapping pictures and stuff. Jen and I can’t wait to fly over there.

Best luck so far has been AFF, with SLS being second and swingtowns third. CL has just been abysmal. and zero from any other site.

For me, it is like dating again before Jen and I got married. It really feels like that but instead of one person (outside of the one I mentioned above), it has been with couples. Couple dating is what I call it now and Jen and I are having a blast.

We found that straight swingers seem to be emotionally disconnected. Don’t want any conversation or get to know you. Just sex and that is it. Hence the poly thing getting mixed in with it.

I think friday we are going to take it to the next level with that one older couple. The chemistry is just to strong there to ignore.
We will see :)

4411

Never seen a poly person who wasn’t disgusting.

4412

AOL!!

4413

I would probably say that we have seen about 80% of the people (poly and swingers) are really, really obese (or old) while the other 20% are people who are athletic or who are average weight/height. We just weed out the 80% for the 20%.

4414

4415

lol Matt!

4416

These are sized to the same dimensions as they appear on Plenty of Fish, which is to say, small.

Old pic: http://creolened.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/bike-cropped-pof.jpg

New pic: http://creolened.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/me-outside-small-pof.jpg

I also got a wink today on another site after using the new pic. Turned out the guy is half of a couple looking for more. Maybe I should forward the wink to Supersport!

4417

Ned, well, you definitely look younger in the new picture. I can see why that’s going over so well. The problem with both, though, is they aren’t natural: you’re self-conscious in both. Give your ex your camera, go hang out for a couple of hours and just encourage him to take as many pictures of you as possible, especially when you’re not expecting it. You’ll get some real winners.

4418

Indeed, the second photo (while better than the first) suggests you’re saying to the photographer: “is…is this ok?”. It’s not a bad photo though so I’d stick with it until you get the ultimate snap.

4419

What he said. And dont try to cover up the face with a hat. Wear it proud brother. Another thing dont wear yellow. Wear black.

But really, go out one night and have a friend take random shots of you without your knowledge. Your gonna get some sucky ones, but the good ones will be really really good.

Oh and yeah, does he live in Honolulu?

4420

I don’t know, wearing a YELLOOOOOOOOOOW shirt like that tells the world “I ain’t afraid of nothing! I’ll even wear this canary yellow shirt to prove it!”

Be proud and unafraid, Ned!

On a less hilarious note - the second photo is worlds better than the first, namely because your face is actually visible. The first photo makes me think “I saw this guy in a van offering free candy”, while the second is a lot more accessible and approachable.