5041

Well, now I know you’re just trolling!

5042

Do you honestly not realize that your stories can come off as creepy/douchey?

I mean, really, google ‘Guy With Camera’ for a little context on the last one.

Maybe when you do it, it’s not creepy, but you’re sure as hell not doing yourself any favors by the way you phrase it. In your defensive post about it, you mention that it was a third date fun idea, but that context wasn’t anywhere to be found in your initial mention – you made it sound like you bought the camera as a clever scheme to get in an unsuspecting girl’s pants, which is the classic creepy Guy With Camera move.

As far as the “well, Supersport posts weirder stuff!” thing goes, yeah, he posts more unusual stories, but he’s not so goddamn defensive and nasty about it. People give him shit and he doesn’t immediately accuse them of being ‘fun police’ and tell them they need to get laid more often and make all kind of judgements about them.

People here don’t hate fun. Stop pretending they do and actually take a good hard look at what you’re doing, you slackjawed dipshit.

5043

I don’t hate you, Guap. I also don’t judge the ladies with whom you are with. Though I don’t exactly blame any of them for not sticking around for long. I mean, there’s a reason you haven’t found the one. You’re rich, you’ve got flash, and that’s all great, but I have a hard time believing that the guy who logs on from his iPhone in the bathroom to post the bra sizes of the girls he’s about to nail has much in the way of depth. Presumably the one? She’s got some taste. She’s also looking for the one, and the guy telling boasting stories about the time he boned a girl after pretending to be a photographer probably isn’t it.

If it makes you feel better, you’re probably going to be in a lot of women’s memories as they grow older, get married and have kids, though. I mean, they’ll be the embarrassing memories that are used to warn their daughters, but you’ll be there!

Anyway, I’d like to think that as Julius Caesar became such a legend that well over two dozen cultures from as the sun scorched lands of the middle east, the snowcapped peaks of Iceland and the vasty steppes of Russia came to embrace his name as synonymous with emperor or king, so too will cultures worldwide one day come to embrace the name of ElGuapo as synonymous with douche.

5044

Do you mean to tell me that nlanza and Bahimiron ALSO aren’t getting laid? Holy shit, it’s an epidemic!

5045

I accept! Growing a mullet is far less expensive than my last plan, which was to buy a negligee and order pizza.

5046

Guapo, you come across as shallow and defensive.

I can’t point to when it started, but originally your stories about the hot tub from First Date Smoochin’ were funny and good-natured. You came across as generally a lucky guy. I don’t think many people had an issue with you then, though it’s been a while since I read QT3’s Greatest Hits and I could be misremembering.

Lately in this thread, though, your posts have been a bit more about bragging and how awesome you are. Your post about this last date struck me a lot more like you were putting one over on her, and that’s without me seeing the panty line comment, whatever that was.

[INDENT]1. Contact the most beautiful girl you can find on OKCupid.

  1. Convince her to go out with you to talk about her wish to become a model, and also general stuff.

  2. Talk about how you could do a photoshoot for her at your place.

  3. Set up a photoshoot. Go buy a digital SLR camera at the last minute, as well and flowers and champagne.

  4. Put on some cool music on Pandora radio, like Kanye West and such. Start photo shoot. Act like Austin Powers. Champagne flows freely, cool music on, outfit changes become more and more revealing, until it’s very fun!

[/INDENT]That’s what jumped out at me at first. I’m not saying you were a predator or anything, or even that you seemed like one. But from how you’ve behaved in the thread in the past, now your posts are looked at a little closer, even by guys like me who don’t really give a damn.

I don’t think it helps that I think you retired from online dating a while back to find “the one” and then all this stuff still happens, like a Romeo Favre situation. But again, I could be misremembering.

When people jump on these, your response is to start flinging mud and calling them names. Are people harsh? Yes. Unfairly so? Sure. Are you as well? Yes. ABailey looks at what you wrote, how you presented this story, and comes to a perfectly reasonable conclusion about what happened. Do you clarify things? Yes. But then you say she’s just not gettin’ enough to defend yourself because why else would anyone say anything had to you? It’s dismissive, insulting, and childish. And that’s not how you used to act to people in these threads, or in general.

I don’t want you to stop sharing in these threads, because I don’t want anyone to stop sharing in these threads because it’s fascinating to this 28-year-old married guy who hasn’t dated since, well, he was 18 years old in high school. I never did any online dating and I was with the same girl for what felt like ever until I married her, so this stuff is just fascinating to read about – a whole section of life I missed and while I don’t regret it, it’s neat to read and hear about.

But I would like you to present yourself as a mature and fairly classy dude, which I know you can be and you usually are, else you likely wouldn’t be having this much fun. Just watch how you tell these stories originally, and when someone has something negative to say, don’t assume the worst and induct them into the Humorless Lesbian Club.

I hope I haven’t come across as insulting or dismissive or anything – it’s absolutely not my intent. If I did anywhere, I apologize and please let me know where.

5047

Ah, good. I applaud your uncommon level of sense.

5048

I gave ElGuapo’s post the benefit of the doubt and I’m definitely not getting laid. It’s all so confusing!

5049

Bad plan. ElGuapo’s getting a second job as a pizza delivery man just so he can live out another sexy cliche. You could be that lucky girl! Call now and order a jumbo extra sausage! (With a lot of cheese! ROFL! ;D )

5050

I kinda get the same feeling, but I can’t entirely tell whether ElG has changed or the forum has changed.

But yeah, it feels like his stories used to be more good-natured and upbeat and these days they’re more bragging-through-cliche.

I dunno. Maybe it really is that nobody else is getting laid. Except for Supersport, of course. Godspeed, Supersport.

5051

I say all those things, Guapo, not to make you feel like everyone’s against you here – I didn’t realize I’d be one of four different replies calling you a douche. I’m not calling you a douche! I’m calling you a guy who’s coming across as a douche, and I think you can fix that just by watching how you present yourself. It’s all in the communication.

5052

I love how some people are falling all over themselves disclaiming that they’re sure The Handsome One is not really a douche - he just comes across that way because of inartful posting or whatever.

I’m not sure why those people are giving him the benefit of the doubt. If he wants to avoid the perception that he’s a douche, or a slack-jawed dipshit, maybe he should stop behaving like one. That he always acts shocked that people might take exception to his behavior makes it even worse.

Let’s face it - even if he really hadn’t lured some woman from OKC he didn’t know to his place with a camera and booze, he clearly wanted people here to think he had, because he thinks that kind of thing is cool. That’s pretty damned douche-y.

5053

This is sort of like if I posted about how incredibly large my student loan repayments are and then asked if it came off as bragging.

5054

It’s not common sense, Warren just has a very low tolerance for any thought processes or worldviews different from his own. That’s why he has half of QT3 on ignore.

5055

ElG, nobody here cares if you bitch about your vegetarian ex-wife or look for virtual high-fives every time you score with some porn star/model/actress. It’s your increasingly dickish responses to people who don’t find your frat-boy antics amusing.

I’ve been keeping out of it because I’ve met you twice in person and you seem like a perfectly nice person, someone I wouldn’t expect to use “durrr, you get should laid more” as a retort.

That story about the camera is absolutely creepy, and makes you sound like a sleazy old man missing half his shirt buttons. But you were the one who posted it, so you can either man up and take the mockery or delete your post. Or tell me I don’t get laid enough. Congrats on being an asshole online, I guess.

5056

I’m gonna change this to: Who the fuck cares.

5057

I prefer to try and give everyone the benefit of the doubt. I don’t like coming across as hostile or dismissive myself, and I try to be even-handed and generally a nice guy. Given a chance that it’s an honest question, if there’s more going on than we’ve seen and an honest reply could get through and mean something, I’m going to take that chance. I’ve known people use the negative style of feedback as just reinforcing the way they behave, which isn’t far off from how Guapo’s acting now, and I’d rather try to help. If it makes me naive and foolish, hey, won’t be the first time.

5058

Man, this thread is getting confusing. At first I was sure that ElG was just trolling everyone, because you can’t be as big a douche as he represents himself, AND be self-unaware, AND be smart enough to post like he posts in other contexts. So I figured he was just running with the “resident douche” tag and having some fun with everyone.

Now I’m thinking it might be something else entirely. It could be a Momento-level mindfuck where he’s fairly normal, trolling as douche, then retrolling as normal after the fact to see if you will all forgive him. But it could also be that he’s fairly normal with some fatal flaw in taste where he WANTS to be an enormous douche, so he’s unconsciously representing himself in the douchiest way possible.

Got me. If it weren’t for the occasional flashes of sanity and taste I would go with straight douche a la Jose Liz or something, but the constant retreading of his oblivious innocence just smacks false.

H.

5059

So you’re saying you just made all that up?

5060

So… you agree that your story creepy enough that you should keep it to yourself? Or… you made it up?

And accusing others of being shallow? Please. The first thing you mention is looks. And you conveniently decided to leave out the fact that this wasn’t actually a first date until you got the reaction you wanted.

I don’t care how many women you’ve banged, I like reading some of the stories, but cut the shit and be real.