Meanwhile on OKC I got a message from a guy I dated a couple of times last summer, the one who thought “History of the World, Part I” was the funniest movie ever and subjected me to a viewing to prove how horribly wrong he was. At first he’s all “long time no see” then he quickly segues to “I was going out with someone for a year but just broke up” and then finally “hey, we should meet and catch up”. Uh huh.

Also on OKC my profile was checked out by a cute 39 year old guy. Naturally I check his profile. Says he’s bisexual. Hmm, okay. Two photos. The second one is some girl in a dress. Kind of pretty. Oh, it’s the guy. He’s a transvestite. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

This is me, not dating.

You should totally go to West Virginia. I was driving through and saw a license plate that said EXMAIL 6. That means that there were at least eleven EXMALE plates and five EXMAIL plates before him, so obviously WV is a hotbed of alternative sexuality.

H.

Or you happened to run across someone who was very proud of his history of service in the US Postal service.

I looked. That was not the case.

H.

Could have been both.

Figured I’d jump in here, since I’m back on the internet dating horse these days. I’ve been pretty impressed with OKC’s setup, especially the public question-answering thing, but I’m starting to wonder if it isn’t better to just have less info in the profile and put much more focus on getting people talking to each other directly. Of course, how people say things in their profile can give you a sense of their personality, but I guess I just feel like a real-time conversation (even if it is via IM) is a better way to figure out if you click.

I’ve been thinking about that because I did a couple speed dating things recently (also co-ordinated through an internet site called hurrydate), and I really think the 6 minutes of face-to-face conversation gave me a better handle on how I felt about the girls than I’ve gotten from 99% of the profiles I’ve read. Even though all we talked about was the mundane stuff you’d put in a profile. Talking about it though, you just get a lot more cues and establish more of a connection than you would if you read some public page. By the time you know that same stuff, you are no longer strangers.

The other day I logged into Plenty of Fish to see an enticement to check out eVow, which is billed as “a new site from Plentyoffish for those looking for long term relationships”. At first blush the site looks like a rip-off of eHarmony. I didn’t get any further than the first page because I’m not going to bother with registering.

My two guesses here are a) it’s going to be focused on paid members and b) because of that it might not have an interface that makes one weep in despair. Someone register and find out! Also, the couple on the main page look like something that fell out of a stock photo collection.

Meanwhile, as I continue to Not Date, I’ve been contacted on OKC by someone 14 years my senior. I am keeping an open mind but the age gap is higher than what I use for my normal dating site search criteria. The guy I dated last summer who contacted me about a week ago sent his latest missive this evening, inviting me to come over and smoke a joint with him.

Somehow, some way, I shall find the strength to turn down this tantalizing offer.

I also agree with ravenight’s post in that a profile should contain just enough info to be interesting but no more. Save something to talk about in person. Too many profiles read like someone’s freakin’ life story. Keep it simple, toss in a couple of good photos and you’re set.

If I’m paying them, they should stop compromising my security once a month at least.

So, I decided to do the worst thing possible and make a craigslist post. I haven’t done that in about five years, because when I did…well, I’ll post THAT story later, let me just say the phrase “I almost punched her” was uttered.

For reference, the waitress said it.

Anyway, I’ve now started talking to one really nice girl who’s pretty cute and new to Phoenix. I also got responses from one who used apostrophes to pluralize. Oh, and spam. Lots of spam (yet not as much as one would expect).

Here’s hoping she isn’t hiding tremendous issues!

Oh god post the story NOW man!

The issues! They are tremendous!

Blame ABailey! I’m just copying/pasting from the original livejournal entry with a few small tweaks. Yes, Livejournal, this was somewhere around 2004!

Met girl. Seemed interesting enough, fun probably.

Was wrong. Went to Sushi Q. Fucking embarrassed.

So, first thing is even though it’s a date, she’s talking about how she has “much better things to do than date or drink or have sex.”

Second, she complains about the red meat and pork in the place, because she doesn’t eat that stuff. She only eats healthy things(apparently that includes McSalads, which she extolled the virtues of). Not like she’s being forced to order any, of course, but she complains anyway.

Third, she orders the all you can eat. I tell her you have to eat it all and the rice or they charge for it (standard for any sushi joint). She orders TONS. More than I normally would, and I can eat lots of sushi (author’s note-I was about 250 pounds back then). But I always order exactly as much as I need(I was a consistent fatty!). She eats five pieces. She’s stuffed. Doesn’t eat another piece for the hour we’re there after.

Four. Keeps complaining about how slow it all is. The place is PACKED. Every seat at the bar, every table, completely full. And they took 15 minutes to bring the food. They’re going at the same speed as always, always keeping her drink full(and she drank tons). She whined about a lot though. I stopped listening.

Fifth. The big one. I have to start eating her crap. Stuff I don’t like, but it’s more expensive than MY food, which I really wanted and don’t even get to eat. So, I have to save the money. When told by the waitress that yes, you pay for what’s not eaten, she starts freaking out. “Well why nobody told me that I paid for all I can eat!” The waitress is kind enough, having recognized me as a regular, to drop a LOT off the total. It should have been 80-100. The waitress cut it to 63 for us. “Well that’s dumb why do they charge for it? I paid for it!” “Because lots of people come in and order a ton of food, way more than 20 dollars of sushi, and only eat a little.” “Well I don’t know what kind of people would do that.” She doesn’t seem to comprehend she IS that kind of person and just did it.

Now, why is this such a big thing, aside from costing me way more than it should have?

I gave her my 30 in cash. All I had. Explicitly stated, ALL I HAVE. Told her. She acknowledged. “You need to do the tip, because I don’t have the cash for it now. Okay?” “Sure, I’ll cover the tip.” So, she’s whining that she’s tired and can’t get up but to go back to her car. Fine, I take the cards up, apologize to the waiter and waitress(the ones who are always there, and ALWAYS great). They laugh it off, saying they could see I hated dealing with her crap. The waitress is PISSED at the woman. Rightly so. But she’s friendly, which is part of what makes her a great waitress. “You’ve been here plenty, I know you know how it works.” “Yeah, I tried to tell her earlier, apparently she didn’t listen at all.” “I could tell, she looked like she was about to lose it when I explained to her and showed her where it says about paying on the wall and the menu. When she started yelling I almost punched her.”

I go back to the table, she signs the stuff, takes her cards back. I tell her I’ll take it back to the register. She says “No you don’t need to do that, they can get it.” Well, it’s what you do there, it’s courtesy. I’m not arguing with her at this point. She’s not worth it. I get her to leave, so I can take the check back up. I was right to check it, because she didn’t tip. Not a fucking cent. NOT ONE CENT. I don’t know how I missed it earlier, but I found a 20 squished in the bottom of my wallet, which instantly became a 10 dollar tip for putting up with that crap of hers.

The no-tipping really capped it. “Hope you have a better night now”, says the waitress. “I will now that she’s out of it”, I say to the waitress. “Hey, I was going to say that!” she replies. The waiter is cracking up naturally. It’s a much better night now that that date is over.

I shall now follow from my aunt’s wisdom which she shared. “That’s why I always make the first date cheap drinks, and an appetizer or something, so I can bail before I get in too deep.”

Also of note, she kept answering and talking on her cell phone. Bitch, turn it off.

Addendum-I spent around 75-90 bucks that night, and I also got some money from home to add to the tip the next day, because I really felt the NEED to after all that. The bill itself was $120, afterall. That’s how much she ordered and didn’t touch from the most expensive stuff in the place. A hard lesson was learned.

Man, I wish I’d thought of that! So many long awkward dinners.

Since then, I basically don’t go over the price of Ihop. Or Denny’s. Or a night in the park and some coffee.

And generally explaining the reason (No pressure to force it to work because of the initial investment, won’t feel bad to bail on six bucks spent) gets a positive reaction, which is a little surprising. I think it’s the no pressure thing it adds to it.

Dude, you got rolled.

Oh man, that’s terrible.

This is the same crazy bitch who said “I really want to move to Scottsdale. The people there are just so down to Earth.” She grew up in Santa Monica, it turned out. The girl was born with a silver spoon up her ass.

For those unfamiliar with it, Scottsdale, AZ, is Phoenix’s douchebag conjoined twin. If Phoenix is best personified as a grumpy old man who goes to bed too early (and it is), Scottsdale is his 55 year old conjoined brother who’s got too much money and a massive ego, along with a terrible spray tan and guido hair, constantly talking about how he’s “a producer.”

Yeah, I’ve had some hilariously bad dates (one of them was a woman who was literally astonished that I didn’t want to go to a bar for a first date, and talked nonstop about how much she loves to drink and do drugs), but nothing that bad. I don’t think I would be as patient was you were; I’d be very blatantly trolling her, and then at the end, I would have politely asked the waitress for a split check and let her pay for her mounds of sushi that she ordered.

Seriously. Two words; separate bills. Pay yours and leave.

I’ve had similar happen to me though. I remember one girl I dated briefly always expected me to pay for everything. The first couple of dates wasn’t an issue as I picked up the bill anyway but after that I started becoming a little annoyed that she wasn’t even offering to pay anything. I remember one time distinctly where we sat at a restaurant for a good twenty minutes with the bill lying face down on the table, untouched by either of us. I was pretty sure at that point I was being used for free meals/entertainment and was done with seeing her. I think we went out once more a few days prior to her birthday and she actually paid for something. She later asked me to go out with her and her friends for her birthday, I couldn’t go as I had to work late, I wished her a happy birthday and never heard from her again.

So it’s to Phoenix as Overland Park is to Kansas City.

(have they nuked Sun City yet, BTW?)

If that had been an option, I probably would have. But I assumed her a reasonable person who read the rules around her, so why not prep to split 50-50 if we were getting the same thing? The lesson was learned, and I’ve never made the mistake again fortunately, so I consider it a small price to pay overall.

I also KNEW given the chance she’d try and stiff the place. Of course, she did try and stiff them, and I count my extra tip in my total. They fucking deserved it, they really did.

But seriously, wherever you are, Jen, fuck you.