Yeah, I’ve had a few people play the “Oh yeah, I’d love to hang out, just as soon as life quiets down a little” game. In every case, I got bored very quickly with getting strung along, and then deleted her IM contact after she hadn’t initiated a conversation for a week.

That just happened again, actually; well, to be clear, she stood me up first.

I know Creole Ned isn’t interested in sackless people, but I didn’t know it was also true for you, Pogo.

I always want to give people the benefit of the doubt that what they are saying is mostly true, maybe the girl underestimated how much work the classes she was starting would be, and she also told me she got handed a bigger assignment at work than previously (told me that and then we went out again, so it wasn’t all part of the same line). But regardless of the reasons, what she’s saying is that I’m not worth enough to her to make a little time to chat/hang out a couple times a week, so, you know, just tell me you’re not that interested.

Guys, seriously now. Listen to your ol’ Uncle JMJ.

When you ask someone out or start dating them, you have no way of knowing the full context of your meeting, and you never really will. Talking about whether they’re being straightforward about their reasons for any rejection or mixed messages is missing the full range of possibilities.

She (or he) may not actually be single, but was annoyed by something the boyfriend said last week and is considering dumping him while waiting for an apology and wants to see what’s out there.

She may have wanted to get out there and score when she posted the ad, but now she has a mysterious rash and doesn’t know if it may be connected to that guy she met at the bar last month, and she’s waiting to see if it clears up.

Her mother may be dying.

She may only be online in an attempt to not be secretly in love with her booty call anymore.

She may only be after the feeling of being sought after, or (taking that one step further) the sadistic thrill of rejecting those who seek her.

She may be clinically depressed and well able to flirt online but unable to make herself actually leave her house.

She may have not noticed previously that you’re only 5’11" when she’s only attracted to men between 6’5" and 6’6".

Most importantly with online dating, she’s browsing a catalog. In one mood she shops for one kind of item, in another she shops for something else. She makes a list of possible ways to decorate her bedroom, decides on one, then suddenly changes her mind entirely when an updated catalog arrives.

Who can tell? You can’t, so don’t try. Let your motto be “Easy come, easy go,” and also “If you can’t rock me, somebody will.”

Sounds like Uncle JMJ has had some awful dating experiences. ;) Seriously mate, wow. ;)

Well, I get that white lies are the standard thing to do, I just kind of prefer honesty. If a girl and I haven’t discussed being exclusive, I just assume she’s seeing other guys and I have no problem seeing other girls. I mean, we met online, so we are both probably pursuing multiple options, right? If we come to that discussion, I just tell her honestly how I feel (however that happens to be). If as a result of that discussion, I have to break it off with someone else, well, then I might hedge the truth a little and just say why I chose against her, as opposed to saying “there’s someone else”. I don’t really care that much what a girl’s stated reason is for saying she doesn’t want to see me again (early in a relationship, anyway), I just don’t really like the “well, I’m busy right now, maybe next week… Oops busy again… You know what, I’m too busy to really be dating right now” approach

Some of those are my experiences, some those of friends, some made up but quite plausible. I left out many many that are implausible but true, such as

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9/11 girl, who had her own free amateur porn site of herself
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I’ll stop there.

My point isn’t that people tell white lies, but that our goals and reasons for doing anything are often unclear to ourselves and are completely fluid anyway. Many if not most people aren’t even in a position to be “honest” about what they want, because they have only the vaguest idea. The worst thing you can do is try to force the issue and pin her down.

The fuck? No, don’t stop there.

JMJ, I think you need to expand and regale us with some of those situations.

This requires more information, both on how she got that name and any pertinent URLs.

Will you guys quit trying to gossip and concentrate on my great advice?? Pearls before swine, I tells ya.

OK, I’ll tell you about 9/11 girl, but it’ll have to wait until after work.

Human nature, John, we’re drawn to the sexy outlier.

Especially when it has pictures. Site’s still up, right?

Human nature, John, we’re drawn to the sexy outlier.

Especially when it has pictures. Site’s still up, right?

John, it’s not actually great advice, so back to the stories, man! ;)

Human nature, John, we’re drawn to the sexy outlier.

Especially when it has pictures. Site’s still up, right?

No, she took it down when she got married and pregnant (not by me!). You’re right about me being a sexy outlier, though. Rrrowr!

OMG DISSED

Oh well, if it was on the internet, I can find it somewhere. Name/story, please! As long as she was hot, anyway.

I guess you can tell us the other ones too, just to keep your cover.

Well in my case it just worked out great.

I called her up and we chatted a bit, then I told her it had been great to get to know her but I wasn’t feeling like there was anything to pursue, romantically. She said she felt the exact same way, and that she was also casually dating someone else, and wasn’t ‘good at’ dating several different people. We chatted for a bit more, being friendly, then I thanked her and wished her well and hung up happy that I’d called.

Glad to hear it DoomMunky! Honesty is always the best! :)

Hmm I’ve just knocked another one off my list, its just I can’t seem to feel any sparks with any of these ladies. 2 dates and lots of texts, I’d love to hang out with them as friends because they’re really quite awesome people but I just don’t feel anything. Is that normal, should I be waiting a longer to see if I have any sparks (since I do really enjoy them as friends?).