Are you suggesting that the pick-up artist crowd isn’t made of sincere, loving individuals, Fire?

I’m sure you guys are all first-rate chaps.

The Pick Up Artist (summer 2011)

Tag line: a bunch of first-rate chaps.

Starring:???

I think I may need to add some sarcasm tags to my last post. Or bump it up with “Only the sweetest guys around start conversations by destroying self-confidence. How can you go wrong with them?”

Just the potential implication of being included with that crowd…gah. Skin-crawly.

Make sure you let her know “our association is at its end”.

Thank you, dear. Kalle, you can stop trolling him now; I’ll take over from here. :)

Seriously, though, negs are cute, but please don’t spread that idea around to a lot of other guys. It’ll get old REALLY fast.

It may get old for some, but there are whole industries built up around those types of setups getting responses and dates. Sad but true.

And this is why they’re successful:

If it works, then it works. The ethics of it are irrelevant. I tend to follow the PT Barnum school of thought that goes something like “If I wasn’t meant to have your money, you wouldn’t have given it to me”. The kind of people who’ll fall for the negative-comment flirtation are what perpetuates it.

Granted, I can’t wrap my brain around that kind of approach - mostly because I think “Hey, if I want to date/spend time with/hook up with someone perhaps I should, y’know, be nice to them?” - and if it doesn’t work, then it doesn’t work, but I don’t feel like a heel for it.

Once I watched a documentary called “American Pimp.” One old pimp explains how he identifies women who can be turned out as streetwalkers: he chats them up for a while, then suddenly orders them to buy him a drink. Some, he says, are shocked and then tell him off, but some will actually do it. That indicates that they have low enough self-esteem to be dominated and manipulated as necessary, so he focuses on them after that.

It seems to me that those would be the same women who’d respond to such an approach online…And that only a bona fide sociopath would find those responses worth the effort. I mean, are insults all you think you have to offer?

Holy fuck dude.

Seriously, it’s like the pimp comment above. If I go up to you, talk for a while, and then say “By the way, asshole, give me your wallet” with a smile, and you give it to me? I should have your wallet because you are dumb.

The kinds of people who fall for those approaches serve the same purpose in the food chain as does plankton - they exist solely to feed those too lazy to actually put effort in. Which is fine, if all you want is plankton.

Nice.

And isn’t it only misogyny if it’s directed at women? Stupidity is not limited to gender.

I gotta say, I never figured you for a sociopath.

Heh. I wish there was such an easy excuse.

No, just a bitter misanthrope. I see people fall for this kind of manipulation and I just want to say “Really? Really? THAT’S what works? God, you fucking sheep, you deserve what you get.”

It’s like the people who fall for that have something broken in their brain. Someone came up and was a jerk to you - that’s negative, they’re a bad person, rebuff them and move on. Don’t… do the opposite! Argh! It’s like the one retarded gazelle in the herd running TOWARDS the lion thinking he just wants a hug.

Mightynute… there’s a big difference between thinking lowly of people that fall for dumb tricks and/or manipulation… and taking advantage of those people yourself.

Hey - don’t hate the misanthrope. Hate the misanthropy!