That Internet dating thing

Mightynute · 2010-11-29T13:45:37.000Z

Matt Perkins:

Mightynute… there’s a big difference between thinking lowly of people that fall for dumb tricks and/or manipulation… and taking advantage of those people yourself.

No argument there. I mean, hell, I can’t say the idea doesn’t have its appeal. “Go say this, act like a douche, get women!” - yeah, but you get the kind of women that fall for shit like that, and that’s not what I want, hence the plankton analogy. Anyone can hit the drive-thru and get a Big Mac, but don’t try and pass it off like it’s Chateaubriand.

Zylon · 2010-11-29T14:46:07.000Z

Mightynute:

“Go say this, act like a douche, get women!” - yeah, but you get the kind of women that fall for shit like that, and that’s not what I want, hence the plankton analogy.

But if you DID want women like that, you’d have no ethical problem acting that way, is what you still seem to be saying.

Mightynute · 2010-11-29T14:51:10.000Z

Zylon:

But if you DID want women like that, you’d have no ethical problem acting that way, is what you still seem to be saying.

But I don’t, so I don’t see what you’re getting at.

Lum · 2010-11-29T14:53:03.000Z

Mightynute:

I don’t see what you’re getting at.

Yes, that would be the problem.

JoshV · 2010-11-29T14:53:06.000Z

Zylon:

But if you DID want women like that, you’d have no ethical problem acting that way, is what you still seem to be saying.

I think what he is saying is that those two kinds of people deserve each other?

JM1 · 2010-11-29T15:34:33.000Z

Indeed, women with low self esteem totally deserve to be manipulated by utter fuckheads.

ElGuapo · 2010-11-29T15:34:37.000Z

So I’m finally in a long term relationship. Man I get a little stupid and macho and braggadocio when I’m totally single. Sorry everyone in the last several months with the dumb stories. I need to keep my private life more private. Idiotic. I’m not like that in person.

JM1 · 2010-11-29T15:36:19.000Z

Weren’t you single very recently? Your definition of “long term” seems to be different to most… :)

Lunch_of_Kong · 2010-11-29T15:39:42.000Z

Is the difference between single and totally single something akin to a stop vs. a California stop?

ElGuapo · 2010-11-29T15:42:01.000Z

No wait, neither of those apply now. It’s divorced and remarried or nothing now.

Though divorced to me always means “has kids”. It’s a modern day twist of the definition of the word that I think has morphed with the times.

Lunch_of_Kong · 2010-11-29T15:46:42.000Z

JM:

Indeed, women with low self esteem totally deserve to be manipulated by utter fuckheads.

On the contrary, I think mightynute clearly understands the rules of the game, and he could min/max to his hearts content if he wanted, but because he realizes his goal in playing the game isn’t to amass the highest body count but to have the best possible time with a shared social experience, he has chosen to back away from being a munchkin.

Any game master would commend such restraint. Why don’t we?

ravenight · 2010-11-29T16:04:51.000Z

If you are “negging” someone by straight-up insulting them, you are doing it wrong. The point isn’t to just insult someone, the point is to confound expectations. A girl who is used to having men compliment her appearance is going to find it more interesting when a guy doesn’t - but that doesn’t mean she wants to be insulted. A backhanded compliment, though, is different from what she usually hears. Like, “You’ve got an… interesting style, don’t see a lot of girls bold enough to pull that off.” You may get responses by being more of an asshole (and even that line might come off sounding dickish online, without a smile to back it up) but you are getting the responses because you said something more interesting than normal and the rest of your profile is good. Being less of an asshole without being predictable would probably work even better.

Zylon:

But if you DID want women like that, you’d have no ethical problem acting that way, is what you still seem to be saying.

What exactly is the ethical problem? Acting in a way that someone responds well to is unethical for some reason? How is it any less ethical than buying someone a drink or complimenting someone when you don’t really believe the compliment?

ElGuapo · 2010-11-29T16:06:23.000Z

Jesus I hate that manipulative pick up artist shit.

Mightynute · 2010-11-29T16:10:44.000Z

Lunch of Kong:

On the contrary, I think mightynute clearly understands the rules of the game, and he could min/max to his hearts content if he wanted, but because he realizes his goal in playing the game isn’t to amass the highest body count but to have the best possible time with a shared social experience, he has chosen to back away from being a munchkin.

Any game master would commend such restraint. Why don’t we?

Precisely.

Actually, min/maxing wouldn’t necessarily be in my favor either, what with my streak of rolling ones. But that’s okay, a natural twenty’s got to come up some time. Critical hit for love, baby!

(Hi, my name is Mighty, and I’m a geek.)

ravenight · 2010-11-29T16:31:46.000Z

ElGuapo:

Jesus I hate that manipulative pick up artist shit.

If this is referring to my post, then we have different definitions of the term “manipulative”.

Pogo · 2010-11-29T16:34:11.000Z

JM:

Indeed, women with low self esteem totally deserve to be manipulated by utter fuckheads.

Deserve has nothing to do with it.

Raife · 2010-11-29T16:37:41.000Z

ravenight:

If this is referring to my post, then we have different definitions of the term “manipulative”.

Maybe he thought you were trying to pick him up.

ravenight · 2010-11-29T16:39:17.000Z

Raife:

Maybe he thought you were trying to pick him up.

Shit, was I that obvious?

JM1 · 2010-11-29T16:43:36.000Z

Pogo:

Deserve has nothing to do with it.

Tell that to Mightynute.

Omniscia · 2010-11-29T16:45:13.000Z

Mightynute:

And isn’t it only misogyny if it’s directed at women? Stupidity is not limited to gender.

Yeah. If it’s directed towards men, it’s misandry.