That NYT op-ed: The Resistance is Coming From Inside the House...

[Scuzz]

@divedivedive

Or they stay home.

And not vote against the socialists and baby killers?

@Gordon_Cameron

So that’s what RNC stands for.

:)

[divedivedive]

There’s a raging, hot-blooded core of Republicans that will always vote R, no doubt. But that’s not enough to win office.

[Nesrie]

@divedivedive

Or they stay home.

The only thing worse than voting for a Democrat in the Republican sphere is not voting for a Republican.

[Matt_W]

@scottagibson

Hot take: Whistleblowers are heroes.
Smoking hot take: They’re actually cowards.

Whistleblowers are heroes if they do something of consequence. “Don’t worry about the possible end of the world; there are adults in the room,” isn’t whistleblowing (everyone with two brain cells knows Trump is an incompetent, narcissistic, blowhard moron) it’s paternal self-aggrandizement at no personal risk. It would be whistleblowing if they produced documents or recorded conversations or anything that could be a matter of public record and that might make a difference. Or if they were willing to put themselves on the line to testify at an inquiry or to an investigator or at a hearing. WaPo has been reporting on internal chaos in the administration since January of 2017; Anonymous isn’t telling us anything we didn’t already know. It’s political theater.

[Scuzz]

@Nesrie

The only thing worse than voting for a Democrat in the Republican sphere is not voting for a Republican.

Or a Mormon, just ask Romney.

[MikeJ]

@Scuzz

So are those groups suddenly going to become Democrats, or vote independent. No, they will vote republican the next time they step into a voting booth.

But which Republican will they vote for in the primary? Republican A, who voted to impeach their hero, or Republican B who denounced A as a traitor?

[scottagibson]

@Matt_W

Whistleblowers are heroes if they do something of consequence.

I am in total agreement.

[JonRowe]

@Matt_W

Whistleblowers are heroes if they do something of consequence.

Exactly.

[Timex]

Alex Bolton (alexanderbolton)

Rand Paul is such a great small-government libertarian.

[KevinC]

@Scuzz

Or a Mormon, just ask Romney.

This is how we get ants (i.e. Orrin Hatch and Jason Chaffetz).

[Wallapuctus]

@Gordon_Cameron

So that’s what RNC stands for.

That’s perfect. I love it.

[newbrof]

Maybe this OpEd is the straw that broke the camels neck? It looks like finally there is some momentum going on within the WH … maybe this time.

[Oghier]

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But maybe you’re right ;) Woodward’s book, this and the midterms might all combine to something important.

[Strollen]

@MrGrumpy

Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session . If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

It is true that it does require a 2/3 vote. However, I suspect that if the cabinet acts Congress would happily go along. After the mid-term, it will be easier to get to 2/3 on the house, although maybe slightly harder on the Senate with the lose of Corker, McCain, and Flake. Right now Republican are terrified of their base, if there is a blue wave in Nov. they finally may be terrified of the rest of the voters.

It is possible that the die harder Trumper would be slightly less pissed at Republican Congressmen, if the cabinet acts first. Sadly, there are almost no leaders left in the Republican party who have the guts to tell the Republicans that the fucked and elected a madman, so we may have to put up with Trump for the rest of the term.

[Oghier]

@Strollen

However, I suspect that if the cabinet acts Congress would happily go along

Really? How do you get past the fact that Trump’s base still supports him, and that most of those GOP congressmen will lose their next primary if they lift an anti-Trump finger? A mass outbreak of courage? :)

I can’t see anything happening until and unless his support among GOP voters takes a serious dip. As I don’t believe that will occur, I think he’s POTUS until his next election.

Change my mind! :)

[Strollen]

@Matt_W

Whistleblowers are heroes if they do something of consequence. “Don’t worry about the possible end of the world; there are adults in the room,” isn’t whistleblowing (everyone with two brain cells knows Trump is an incompetent, narcissistic, blowhard moron) it’s paternal self-aggrandizement at no personal risk. It would be whistleblowing if they produced documents or recorded conversations or anything that could be a matter of public record and that might make a difference. Or if they were willing to put themselves on the line to testify at an inquiry or to an investigator or at a hearing. WaPo has been reporting on internal chaos in the administration since January of 2017; Anonymous isn’t telling us anything we didn’t already know. It’s political theater.

I mostly agree, but don’t you feel a little better reading the editorial knowing there is an active resistance inside the White House? I’m not going give anon a medal, but I’d buy the person dinner, and give him a certificate of appreciation.

[Oghier]

I’m willing to take anon at his word. I find it plausible that a conventional republican might find himself caught up in this shitshow, and then legitimately decide the world is better off he stays and limits the damage rather than leaves in a huff.

No resignation will change Trump or his voters. Hell, Melania could walk out, and it would all blow over. Maybe snatching the occasional document off the Orange Horror’s desk really is the best of all possible trumpworlds. And maybe letting the rest of us know that some constraints still exist is a good thing.

If/ when Mattis gets the boot, that’s when it’s truly time to panic.

[HumanTon]

Novelist Anne LaMott hits the nail on the head:

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[Strollen]

@Oghier

Really? How do you get past the fact that Trump’s base still supports him, and that most of those GOP congressmen will lose their next primary if they lift an anti-Trump finger? A mass outbreak of courage? :)

I can’t see anything happening until and unless his support among GOP voters takes a serious dip. As I don’t believe that will occur, I think he’s POTUS until his next election.

Change my mind! :)

If Red district with good candidates, example Beto vs Cruz in Texas, MJ Hegar in TX-31, and Amy McGrath in KY-6, win, than Republican Congress critters biggest fear suddenly switches from being primaried to winning the general election if they stick with a deeply unpopular President. In 2008, nobody in the Republican primary ran as being the 3rd term of George W. Bush, although Obama did a fine job of putting McCain in that roll. .

[charmtrap]

@Strollen

I mostly agree, but don’t you feel a little better reading the editorial knowing there is an active resistance inside the White House?

Not really. If I thought there was really active resistance, maybe This reads more like Trump-adjacent Republicans seeing the trendline for the midterms and starting up the “conservatism can never fail, it can only be failed” messaging machine.