The 2011 Dominions 3 Thread

Austen · 2012-06-26T14:27:14.000Z

Dave Perkins:

Chest bumps all around!

/Manhug

Evil_Steve · 2012-06-26T14:52:52.000Z

pythium

dfs · 2012-06-26T20:39:44.000Z

Evil Steve:

pythium

Pyrhic - You’re up… ( see post 2853 for the current list)

Also do note sharelo’s comments about blood in the CBM. It’s certainly not powerless, but it IS different.

pyrhic · 2012-06-26T23:16:17.000Z

Caelum

Scribble · 2012-06-27T03:36:21.000Z

Actually, in a way, blood is MORE powerful in CBM 1.92. This is because of the boost to growth scales makes patrolling more feasible long-term.

Edit: Sucks for nations that rely on blood 1 mages for hunting though.

Kelan · 2012-06-27T04:03:00.000Z

Scribble:

Actually, in a way, blood is MORE powerful in CBM 1.92. This is because of the boost to growth scales makes patrolling more feasible long-term.

Edit: Sucks for nations that rely on blood 1 mages for hunting though.

Heh, I was just going to say that :). I was seriously depressed how poorly blood 1 mages do without their rods.

dfs · 2012-06-27T07:15:09.000Z

pyrhic:

Caelum

nate…

Remaining Nation pool
Machaka, Eriu, Agartha, Shinuyama, Ulm, Jotun, Man, Abysia, Pan, Bandar

sharaleo · 2012-06-27T07:21:44.000Z

Edit: Sucks for nations that rely on blood 1 mages for hunting though.

Yeah, I had 5 or so L1 mages blood hunting for most of the second half of Munin, with very poor returns. All in provinces with 5-8k pop and mostly <20 unrest. I probably averaged 5 slaves per turn total. Did not make sense to have my L2 Priest Kings hunting when I needed them for leading armies or researching.

Scribble · 2012-06-27T08:14:04.000Z

sharaleo:

Yeah, I had 5 or so L1 mages blood hunting for most of the second half of Munin, with very poor returns. All in provinces with 5-8k pop and mostly <20 unrest. I probably averaged 5 slaves per turn total. Did not make sense to have my L2 Priest Kings hunting when I needed them for leading armies or researching.

That’s as an epic fail in terms of blood hunting sharaleo. As a blood nation with a developed blood economy, you should be pulling in two to four times your normal gem income in blood slaves every turn. Aim to blood hunt every province between 5k and 15k population, and patrol brutally in the ones that have 8k+. Set tax to 0. Good patrollers are birds from call of the winds, imps from horde from hell, vampires or beast bats for instance. Your gold income will suffer a lot, but as Mictlan your recruit everywhere mages are cheap and you don’t need a lot of gold each turn. The extra blood slaves you earn are more than worth the income hit and research hit.

Maerlande · 2012-06-27T09:26:00.000Z

The debate over making SDR’s unique in CBM was long, a bit brutal, and involved. But one result was that the minor blood nations like the Heims got some other boosts to compensate. However, no one considered that Mictlan needed any help. And from the games run since, it’s quite possible to have a massive blood economy with Mictlan. It does require some change of methods. Of course, you can read over the many pages of debate, but I think it’s easily summarized by saying that Mictlan is still very viable.

sharaleo · 2012-06-27T09:26:13.000Z

Thanks Scribble, I knew I was not quite getting it, only played blood nation a couple of times, so still getting used to tuning for a blood economy and letting go of gold.

pyrhic · 2012-06-27T19:53:02.000Z

So was playing a test last night and I found a magic site with recruitable wild ettin commanders - they cost 0g and 1 resource. Is this right?

Dave_Perkins · 2012-06-27T19:59:03.000Z

dfs:

nate…

Remaining Nation pool
Machaka, Eriu, Agartha, Shinuyama, Ulm, Jotun, Man, Abysia, Pan, Bandar

Nate must be gravely ill not to have replied yet.

Evil_Steve · 2012-06-27T20:16:36.000Z

Dave Perkins:

Nate must be gravely ill not to have replied yet.

or already in South Dakota…

Maerlande · 2012-06-27T20:45:49.000Z

pyrhic:

So was playing a test last night and I found a magic site with recruitable wild ettin commanders - they cost 0g and 1 resource. Is this right?

This is not right. There is a bug in CBM. There is a patch available and on Llamaserver. Let me find it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showpost.php?p=804194

Just be sure to chose CBM 1.92 EttinFix when creating the game on Llamaserver.

dfs · 2012-06-27T20:58:07.000Z

Maerlande:

This is not right. There is a bug in CBM. There is a patch available and on Llamaserver. Let me find it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showpost.php?p=804194

Just be sure to chose CBM 1.92 EttinFix when creating the game on Llamaserver.

Thank you very much. Good catch.

Assuming that Nate is in South Dakota, We’ll proceed selecting nations which, I believe, means you are up.

Nate, if you manage to get online and want to make a choice, speak up.

Maerlande · 2012-06-28T10:32:44.000Z

I’d like Machaka. I’ve only tried them once and in a blitz and I did horribly. But I think I learned some of what to do.

dfs · 2012-06-28T11:08:41.000Z

Crooked Trunk a CBM Middle Era Game of 8 players.

We will use the land of ethereal squirrels, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showpost.php?p=807145&postcount=29. If you have downloaded a previous version of ethereal squirrel, you want to nab this one. It has a couple connections fixed that are not in the old ones.

Planning to start the actual game around July 16th.

Hold 3 capitols for two entire turns is the victory condition.

Do the math. 8 nations on a 103 land province map will be very tight.

The order of selection
Austen - Vanheim
Evil Steve - Pythia
Pyrhic - Caelum
Nate - Shinuyama
Maerlande - Machaka
Tenuki - Pan
Dave Perkins -Bandar
dfs - Eriu

Leftover Nation pool
Agartha, Ulm, Jotun, Man, Abysia

Diplomacy by E-mail/pm and the forum are to be encouraged.

I expect Crooked Trunk to run at a slightly more relaxed pace than Spring Lion.

Remember to use the CBM mod during pretender creation.

Dave_Perkins · 2012-06-28T11:10:43.000Z

I’m going to pick Shinuyama if Tenuki doesn’t take them, so that ron_debry can be my coach! And I’ll settle for wahoo as coach of Bandar Log, if Shinuyama is taken.

dfs · 2012-06-28T15:08:07.000Z

Dave Perkins:

I’m going to pick Shinuyama if Tenuki doesn’t take them, so that ron_debry can be my coach! And I’ll settle for wahoo as coach of Bandar Log, if Shinuyama is taken.

Tenuki said he wanted Pan earlier, so I figure he gets Pan and you get Man.

This time everybody remember to kill Dave first!