JFrazer
2672
This is obviously an opinion, but I think the reason this is getting so much play is that a lot of people have been looking for a reason to get off the Trump-train but haven’t had a reason that would let them save face.
The things he has been saying over and over again are just the same things repeatedly. “Kick out the foreigners” “Women are crazy” “Take the oil”. None of it was new. The people who supported him when he first said it had to keep supporting him after the 100th time he said the same deplorable thing. So people who were realizing they shouldn’t be supporting him couldn’t get out without 1) looking like traitors to their GOP/conservative friends and 2) admitting to the other side that they were wrong to support him in the first place. This though? This is new. This is fresh. This is a way to jump ship without having to admit that you were a moron for supporting him in the first place.
rowe33
2673
Stop changing his words to make it somehow sound better in your mind. He did not say “grab some pussy.” It’s “Grab them by the pussy.” I love how you know his exact thoughts though. He literally says he doesn’t wait, just starts kissing them. Why are you defending him AT ALL?
Timex
2674
Yeah, this ain’t the hill to die on.
I understand the inclination to reject a dog pile as automatically being overblown, but if you watch the video is pretty messed up.
It’s well beyond what normal people say.
Quaro
2677
It honestly kind of bothers me that someone could day, “I was totally behind Trump until this one specific thing.” while sweeping all the other horrific Trump things under the rug.
You kind of are. The degree to which people react to this might vary, but the takeaway is crystal clear no matter how you interpret the remarks: Trump’s interaction with women is characterized by how he degrades them. Whether he’s literally grabbing vaginas or figuratively grabbing vaginas doesn’t really matter.
Now I’m with you and especially Gordon Cameron upthread in that this isn’t even in the top ten worst things he’s said. I’m mostly appalled that the guy trying to be the head of the executive branch of government is utterly ignorant about how the Constitution works and what it means. I’m appalled as how his idea about foreign policy would destroy our standing in the world. I’m appalled at his xenophobia. If he wants to pile more appalling stuff on the heap to offend even more people, fine by me. Have at it, Donald!
Saracen upthread said this election is over. But frankly, I feel it was over the moment he was nominated. This is playing out exactly like it should. It’s going to be a really fun October.
-Tom
I find it flat-out appalling. The guy is a fucking fascist, and this is what sinks him with these idiots?
Fuck Republicans. They don’t have the foggiest idea what patriotism means.
As much as I admire Kellyanne Conway’s obvious skill at her job – soulless as it is – I really hope she bails on the Trump campaign because of this. I honestly admire how good she is at what she does. But it makes me sad to think of her doing the rounds on Sunday defending these comments.
-Tom
There’s an anonymous quote to CNN from a senior campaign adviser inside the Trump campaign calling his remarks and use of the word “if” in them “Appalling”.
Kind of think that’s Conway. Maybe.
Big tell tomorrow. Scott Walker and Paul Ryan are scheduled to appear together with Trump onstage at a Republican unity thing in Wisconsin.
Both are ducking the press at the moment. As is Mike Pence.
vyshka
2683
From Politico:
Corey Lewandowski on Trump sex comments: ‘We’re electing a leader, not a Sunday school teacher’
Totally not on Trump’s payroll!
-Tom
Timex
2686
People are trying to spin things like “Hey, he just used some crude words!”
But that’s not the thing. The core MEANING of what he was saying, was terrible. He said it in a hillariously crude way, but even if he didn’t say “grab her by the pussy”, it and (somhow?) said it without vulgarity, he was talking about him trying to have sex with a married woman, while he was married 3 times, and 60 years old, and talked about how his game plan is to eat tictacs and then just grope women because he can.
vyshka
2687
/me ponders what Alec Baldwin and the SNL folks are coming up with for tomorrow
Late night at 30 Rock! Better order some pizza.
Man, they do dress rehearsals on Friday, which means they’re pretty locked in by this point. Gonna be a late night in the writer’s office tonight.
I am somewhat with you in the schadenfreude, except that we are one “2nd amendment person” away from this man becoming by default the President of the United States. It is a national imperative that we find a way to increase the vetting and care in the process before the nominees are chosen, so there is no unconscionable choice.
