JFrazer
3556
Thanks for that Wiki link. I learned something today. And it’s right on target for what he does.
It seems to me that killing a person, is very effective way of removing citizenship. Does anybody know to dead people retain their citizenship? So for example if we killed a guy in Yemen who’s wive(s) were pregnant would their children still be American citizens?
magnet
3558
Death does not change one’s citizenship. And your parents are your parents even if they are dead.
So yes, a child born after an American father dies is eligible for US citizenship.
Timex
3560
This is true, the US killing citizens without due process is a very serious deal… But I think it’s worth noting that it’s not happened commonly. In the case of the Imam in Yemen, there is immense documentation in the public record detailing the fact that he was actively fighting against the US. It was also well known that the US wanted him captured. He effectively waived his rights to due process by refusing to engage with the US justice system at all. He could have turned himself in and gone through a trial, but he chose not to. But even so, targeting him with a drone strike required approval by the national security council, specifically because he was a US citizen and enjoyed certain rights.
I don’t lose a lot of sleep over the death of US citizen who’ve joined the Islamist and been killed by drones. With this sole exception the National Security Council is made up of people appointed by the executive branch, some of whom don’t even require confirmation by the Senate. It doesn’t take a ton of imagination to envision the situation where President with a thin skin gets upset with an US citizen who has joined ISIL, but who’s only crime is creating Anti-Trump /pro ISIL youtube videos. We have a 3 branches for a reason, and I see no reason that something like a FISA court tries these people in abstention.
This guy. No wisdom. All worries. God damn con man. Fuck if I know how I’m going to sleep for the next few years.
Teiman
3566
Man tell Duterte that he is fighting the good fight. Duterte is asking people to murder addicts to drugs in the streets.
Maybe this man believe this policy would be good for USA?
None
3567
He’s pretty damn persuasive.
Hardly surprising. Duterte and Trump are made for each other.
Teiman
3569
I was still surprised, because I consider this policy some sort of holocaust, a crime against humanity. I would compare this policy to the nazi germany, but that would be lost on Duterte, he will find it a positive comment. I mean, what type of dude look at extrajudicial killing… hey, wait a minute.
CraigM
3570
Yeah, it is one of the more subtly more repulsive things Trump has said. And the kind of stance I precisely feared with raging lunat…I mean Giuliani in his inner circle.
Timex
3572
I have a theory of what is happening.
So, Giuliani used to be a seemingly reasonable man. Quite well respected, America’s mayor and all that.
But look at him now:

Who does he look like?

At this point, he’s been drained of his strength. Indeed, his humanity. Meanwhile, Trump had enjoyed an amazing rise in power and popularity. And Giuliani has started following him around.
I’m pretty sure that trump has some artifact of power that Giuliani once claimed as his own, and now he follows trump in an effort to once again claim his precious.
I think maybe this story ends with Giuliani biting a finger off of trump, and falling into a volcano.
Teiman
3573
This is new information, Trump has no way to know these rivers and mountains where there before the election.
ShivaX
3574
Plus, everyone knows Mexicans can’t swim. I mean it’s not like we have a slur that specifically references them swimming across rivers or anything.
I can’t see the words “vicious rivers” without hearing it in Dubya’s voice.