Canuck
3696
I have no doubt that the effect that it is having is true but I think you’re giving Trump way too much credit. It’s just coincidental that his childishness benefits him.
Already the 2020 campaign ads start writing themselves.
So your thesis is not that he was smart enough to manipulate our media into getting him installed as the most powerful man on the planet, but rather that he was lucky enough to have the same thing happen. I personally would like to believe you are correct and I am wrong.
Menzo
3700
This is absolutely what I believe. Trump rode a wave that he didn’t even understand. He said stuff and somehow it worked.
Now there are definitely people in his org who had vision. They grasped the power of the alt-right and seized the nationalist moment that the world seems to be having. That was overt. But I don’t for a second believe that even Trump thought he would actually win.
We Democrats pointed and laughed at the Republican clown car during the primaries, but I’m starting to think that a bruising primary campaign isn’t necessarily a bad thing. I don’t think it helped Clinton at all to have so little competition. She needed to be seen as having achieved the nomination by besting competitors, not just being crowned.
#notaberniebrojustsaying
Clay
3702
PSA
Your bold (literally) statement is due to parsing of markdown. You can escape the hashtag to make it appear normal.
#notaberniebrojustsaying
type it like \#notaberniebrojustsaying with the slash.
JonRowe
3703
I am sorry, but discourse needs to change that setting, because hashtags are a common parlance nowadays. And I don’t see the need for many people to change their statement into a heading, which is what the pound sign does now. Nobody is going to remember to put a slash before a hashtag.
Clay
3704
While I agree with that, it’s a Markdown thing, not a Discourse thing. In fact, Discourse does something else with the pound sign… it’s the shortcut for linking to a category, like this: #everything-else
Too many uses for the hashtag these days.
Timex
3705
Honestly though, Clinton had to duke it out with Bernie. It ended up pushing her significantly further to the left. I think this may have been a detraction, as it ended up making it so she couldn’t point out the idiocy of some of Trump’s suggestions, since they were the same as Bernie’s suggestions… essentially, anti-trade stuff.
But the GOP clowncar directly led to Trump’s rise, because with the field so split for so long, it gave power to a single voting block of racist imbeciles, while the rest of the GOP ended up splitting their votes between a bunch of other “normals”. This is why Trump gained steam, despite only having around 30% of the vote in the primaries. And by the time folks started dropping out, he had already become the de-factor primary leader, and momentum carried him to the nomination.
This isn’t really a good way to go.
Exactly, she wasn’t crowned at all. In '08 she lost in a bruising fight to Obama and in '16 she won in a bruising fight with Bernie.
CraigM
3708
But (and I’m going to hate myself for even typing this) ‘that’s not what the narrative was’
HAHAHAHA. Obviously, no one will use this, certainly not anyone that really needs it, but man it’s so awesome that WaPo is tweaking Trump’s nose with this Trump Twitter Live Fact Checker.
I like how they end it with LEARN MORE
Quote random nobodies on twitter FTW!?
He did not even quote the whole tweet, 'cause, check out the attached pic:
https://twitter.com/EazyMF_E/status/806995630014898177
Followed by other major techs now:
An “unpresidented” tweet.
Isn’t that one of the fake Trump twitters?
No, that’s the Android filter bot that excludes his handlers.
