Andrew
1661
You don’t need Warlords. The only thing you miss out on is the scenarios from Warlords, which frankly are not that amazing. Also theoretically there could be mods that require Warlords, but don’t support BTS, but I imagine at this point that is not a problem.
I don’t have Warlords. I do have BtS, which is great, and allows you to play most mods (including Fall From Heaven 2, which is great).
Looks like Civ4 and BTS are still about that price on the used market, so the CC sale is pretty good for a retail store.
I’m not sure if I should bothering buying it now since it will probably get shoved into the middle of the backlog. Easier to “collect” for future play when the game is $2.
[EDIT] Screw it, I doubt they’ll get down to $10 each for more than a year, and with shipping from Half.com I’m only saving 10 bucks.
The latest Gogamer madness has some very tempting deals. Including Frontlines (360) for $30, Turning Point (360/PS3) for $18, and a few others. I wish XBLM hadn’t yanked the Frontlines demos before I had a chance to try them. Then I’d know if it was worth $30 or not. El Guapo and others here at Qt3 seem to like the game a lot.
The other question is: Is Turning Point a piss poor game that’s not even worth it for shooter fans (like Turok and Blacksite: Area 51), or is it more a mediocre shooter that’s still semi-entertaining for shooter fans?
I can’t speak to Turning Point (though if I recall Shawn Elliott said it was an absolute steaming pile) but I will say that Frontlines is a helluva lot of fun. And I played it solely as a single player game, so if you’re into MP, all the better, I’m sure.
I disagree with the notion that Turok and Blacksite: Area 51 are not worth playing.
I picked up both cheap as well as Turning Point and Timeshift and I like them for what they are: Quick, mindless shooters with either nice gimmicks (Turok, Timeshift) or mildly interesting settings / stories (Turning Point, Blacksite).
All worth their about $25 US I paid for each (20 EUR) in my book.
I’ll simply add that I have Turok, Timeshift, and Area 51 which I bought for $25 or less. I’ve enjoyed what I’ve played of all of them, though I admit I’ve spent very little time with Turok.
Does anyone have an opinion on whether or not The Club is worth $15? I can get it for that from Gamefly right now.
Me, I loved Timeshift. I find it a bit upsetting when it gets lumped in with Blacksite and Turok, which are just not in the same league. Sure, Timeshift’s story is generic, and the overall look of the game is a bit bland, but the gameplay is top-notch, at least on the hardest difficulty. It’s not too tough, but it forces you to use time powers properly.
MSUSteve: The demo for the The Club is a really good indicator for the final game. Every level pretty much looks and feels kind of like the level you play in the demo. And all the game-modes that aren’t in the demo basically have a similar kind of mechanic as the one in the demo. So if you like the demo, go for it. If you didn’t like it at all, there isn’t much in the full game that’ll change your mind.
Timeshift lives from the “time shift” gimmick and nothing else. Yes that mechanic is implemented nicely and it’s fun to slow time, steal a weapon from the enemy, stop the slowing and shoot the surprised enemy the first 5 times. After that it becomes “meh”. Also the puzzles are so obvious and nudge you towards the right use of the right power like if you are a 5 year old.
I don’t see much difference to Turok’s gimmick (QTEs with dinosaurs, bows) and the interesting “What if” setting of Turning Point.
Oh and I think soon we can add “Legendary: Pandora’s Box” to that list. ;)
Phew, I dunno’. I just don’t think I’d play it beyond half an hour even if I got it for free.
I just prefer my shooters to be more tactical generally, and that it didn’t have enough meat in the gameplay to make up for that.
Did you try the demo?
I did try the demo and I liked it just fine, but not for $60. I remember thinking it would’ve been a great $15 XBLA game, but the fact is, I probably don’t have the time to play it anyway, even at $15, which seems like a fair price.
Yeah, and Mercs 2 is right around the corner … Should satisfy your desire to run and gun just fine, and then some.
Think it’s ok for that price if you liked the demo.
I didn’t like it one bit but then I don’t like games soley based on high scores.
To me a game should have at least a basic story however full of cliches it will be.
RickH
1674
I hated the vehicle controls in Frontlines so much that I sent it back to Gamefly without completing the first mission. It was an otherwise undistingusihed shooter.
I’m currently playing through Turning Point and it’s a level below Blacksite on the quality scale. Blacksite at least had decent shooting, controls, and event detection. Turning Point has a bizarre melee implementation (press B only when the icon is on the screen, otherwise, no melee-ing), spotty detection of events (you have to have permission to melee or climb a ladder/rail, and it shows up unpredictably), and weapons that actually shoot worse in iron sight mode. For some reason, the ten-consecutive-headshot achievement wouldn’t unlock for me no matter how many nazi melons I popped. It’s not a complete bundle of suck, there are some interesting ideas there. I suppose in short, it’s half-assed.
So wrong.
Anyway, Target’s got Viking for under $20. Their pricing scheme gets kind of weird, but it’s the $19.XX one. Like $19.77 or something. Viking is totally worth it for $20.
Viking looked to me to be Dynasty Warriors in Scandanavia. Is that about right, or am I way off?
That’s about the impression that I got - and twenty bucks might just be the sweet-spot on my interest/value/hunger for something new grid. It’s felt pretty desolate for me in the stretch between GTA and Mercs.
RickH
1678
Yeah, I flew the remote-control thing to blow up the guys, but big deal. The controls were iffy on that, too. And it didn’t seem that much different than what Ratchet & Clank were doing last-gen.
But hey, maybe the MP kicks ass.
I’d say it’s more like a free-roaming God of War set in Scandanavia, but since it’s Sega making it the controls are kind of fucked up and the fighting isn’t quite as deep.
It’s still fun as hell most of the time. Dumb as shit, but fun as hell.
I like that all of these proud viking Norsemen have Scottish accents. C’mon, Sega. You guys couldn’t be even bothered to ride Maelstrom at Epcot to see how Norse people talked?
That’s pretty funny …
Free-roaming? I’d got the impression it was much more level-based. So you can choose when and where to go, or just that the maps for a given level are pretty open?
