All the twitter responses led me to this article, which appeatrs to confirm that American Catholic leadership is in general every bit as reprehensible as most of the other flavors of 'Murican Christian leadership:

The Archbishop in DC has said Biden can receive communion there, and Francis seems ok with it.

These Bishops are Koch-funded schismatic heretics in my eyes.

Making sure that the wrong people don’t get communion seems pretty central to Jesus’ message.

Yeah, screw those lepers and prostitutes!

Judgement and exclusion are, after all, the core precepts of Christ’s message.

“Truly, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child will not enter it at all.” (Mark 10:15)

And who among us has not seen countless children judging who can and cannot take communion?

I mean, plenty of kids are judgemental dicks, so by that standard maybe they’re onto something. What’s more child-like than cliquishness?

I take your point but I don’t think that’s generally true until the pre-teen/middle school years.

Fair, and I’m just being satirical anyway, of course. Children can obviously be petty, cruel, and vindictive but that is equally obviously not what that passage is referring to.

Biden just opened up gender confirmation surgery to trans veterans through the VA.

Given that 1/4 of the trans community in the US are believed to be veterans, this is pretty big. Biden really is the first president to do good stuff for the trans community.

I can’t read the whole Washington Post article, but based off the headline, it seems to unfortunately be following along with a lot of bad reporting in the media. There was no discussion this week at the bishops’ conference meeting of whether Biden qualifies for communion, and there never were plans to discuss it.

How could this possibly be true?

From the article:

In recent years, an increasingly focused group of conservative Catholics has been pressing the prioritizing of opposing abortion above all else,and is seeking to keep Catholic politicians who in any way support abortion access from the sacrament, considered the core rite of Catholic worship.

For Biden’s team, that sometimes has meant dedicating staffers during busy travel weeks to make sure Biden, who supports abortion rights, avoids priests and bishops who would deny him the sacrament over his stance on the issue. The president was denied Communion in 2019 by a South Carolina priest who said any leader “who advocates for abortion places himself or herself outside of Church teaching.”

John Kelly, who did Catholic outreach for the Democratic National Committee, was part of a team in 2008, during the Obama-McCain race, that would find welcoming parishes for Biden. He remembers the angry backlash from Biden’s staff when he suggested one of Biden’s priest friends simply travel with the campaign to avoid complications.

“They felt, and they were right, that he wants to go to church and should have the right to. He wants to worship with his community. His understanding of the Eucharist was it shouldn’t be done hidden in private. I very much felt the Eucharist was being weaponized,” Kelly said.

This week at their annual spring meeting, the bishops of the U.S. Catholic Church — the largest faith group in the country — will debate the meaning of Communion and whether Catholic politicians who support abortion rights should be barred from receiving it. The conversation and a vote among the church’s top clerics could have significant ramifications because it centers on one of the most intimate moments of Catholic worship and binds it uniquely to a specific political and policy position.

The vote comes after two decades of deliberate, passionate focus by Catholic political and theological conservatives to make abortion a litmus test for the sacrament, while church teachings on poverty, climate, racism and authoritarianism, among other things, become more subjective to follow. It also comes after years of hardening toward abortion opponents within the Democratic Party.

But Biden’s candidacy, for the most conservative, created a new kind of urgency.

At a USCCB meeting in the fall of 2019, they discussed whether to make abortion officially their No. 1 concern. “We are at a unique moment with the upcoming election cycle to make a real challenge to Roe v. Wade , given the possible changes to the Supreme Court. We should not dilute our efforts to protect the unborn,” Archbishop Alexander Sample of Portland, Ore., told his fellow bishops, according to the National Catholic Reporter.

The group then overwhelmingly voted for the first time to call abortion the “preeminent priority” in a letter attached to its voting guide. The term had been used in some diocesan voting guides before.

When Biden was elected the following fall, the USCCB at itsNovember meeting called a working group of bishops to deal with the “difficult” situation of the second-ever Catholic president being a strong advocate for policies the church opposes on abortion and LGBT legal rights. The working group recommended creating a document on “eucharistic coherence.”

Then in May, a letter to the bishops arrived from the Vatican. Leaked to the Catholic news site the Pillar, the head of the Vatican’s doctrine-making arm warned the USCCB president that the process of creating a policy on Catholic politicians could be divisive and to move forward only if it created more unity. He pointed the bishops to a 2002 document signed by Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI, who was then head of the doctrine-making body, a complex and subtle paper that warns about moral relativism as well as violating people’s individual conscience.

Recently, almost 70 bishops wrote to Archbishop JosĂ© Gomez, the USCCB president, to urge a delay in any discussion on Communion until they could meet in person and work toward more unity. But Gomez said this week’s meeting would include a discussion about “the meaning of the Eucharist” and would be followed by a vote on whether to have the USCCB’s doctrine committee draft a document on the topic.

There is simply no doubt that a large group of conservative American bishops have been engaged in a long term effort to make abortion opposition a litmus test for politicians to qualify for receiving communion; or that this latest story represents the next step in that effort using the existence of a pro-abortion rights Catholic President as the impetus; or that the Vatican is sufficiently alarmed by it as to attempt to head it off with Ladaria’s letter. I can’t really understand why you keep apparently denying that there’s anything going on at all here.

Not a 25% figure, but definitely some evidence that the military is attractive to closeted trans folks.

This figure says 18%. I wouldn’t be surprised if the number went down some due to Trump.

My own personal experiences verify this, as I knew some folks in my unit who transitioned afterwards (met a couple more through my love of fighting games- where trans rights are heavily supported). The VA was always great for trans care as well, and free, which is important for a group that suffers heavy economic discrimination.

That’s really interesting, I wonder why that would be the case, given such a tiny percentage of the normal population serves in the military.

Although, interestingly, just as an anecdote we have a trans woman in my office, and she served in the army.

All I can say is that the article is rife with errors and missing a lot of context and that accounts for my differing picture of what’s happening inside the USCCB and the Vatican. I’ve already posted a lot about it in the Catholic Church thread, so it’s fine if it doesn’t convince you, but I don’t know how much more I can say about it.

A lot is going on. It certainly has partly been motivated by us having a Catholic president. It could turn out to affect Biden’s relationship with his Church in the future. There are also differing opinions in the US bishops’ conference about how to handle abortion relative to other issues. But there was no debate about Biden or Catholic politicians in the bishops’ spring meeting this week, and the Vatican did not encourage the bishops to drop the question.

My belief from my experiences:

  1. The correlation between higher percentages of poor transfolk and higher percentages of military recruitment is there. Dysphoria and being an outsider might make the military more attractive

West Virginia I think is #1 in both per capita

  1. The VA provides free meds and now free surgery. If you’re broke, that’s a powerful incentive though you have to wait for it (now you don’t under Biden)

Because he agrees with that goal.

No bullshit can escape the eye of Psaki

Perhaps a positive sign. If Manchin is onboard, maybe Warner, Coons et al will follow.

The negotiated bill sounds bad:
(Tweet is referring to a Chris Coons WaPo op-ed.)