For those who think Sinema can be pressured to support legislation by a primary threat from the left:
Maybe she knows what she’s doing?
I mean, it’s sort of “piece of shit good at politics, news at 11”, isn’t it?
Edit: should probably point out that the worst Democratic senator is still miles above the best Republican senator if I’m going to throw shade. :)
Alstein
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That Republican support won’t vote for her in a general unless they run Roy Moore. Maybe not even then.
Having that high an unfavorable in your own party makes you very vulnerable in a general as well- those are folks who might refuse to vote for you in the general.
I suspect Dems are waiting to see if Kelly wins in 2022 before deciding if Sinema is more trouble than she’s worth.
So Eric Adams looked like he won the NYC mayoral race and of course all the savvy pundits declare it a bell weather and Dems need to move right (this is always the lesson regardless of outcome) but lo Garcia is now within 16k votes with -120,000 votes outstanding (caveats: I don’t know anything about the candidates, this is RCV and Adams is still probably going to win.) And now this:
Edit: Oops.
Alstein
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A lot of the precincts who voted for Adams also voted for defund the police city councilfolks.
There’s definitely a mixed message.
The NY BOE (board of elections) really fucked up. They accidently added 135k test votes (so Adams’ complaints about totals seems to be correct) but, predictably, that has the Big Lie assholes animated.
Nonetheless:
Some research data on why Biden won, that somewhat surprised me, as it goes against some of the narrative. White men apparently weren’t in Trump’s pocket as strongly as we thought.
Nesrie
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I believe the narrative was more along the lines of uneducated white men went for Trump which is a group more often found in rural locations not suburbia land.
Why would Hispanics go for Trump? He basically trashed Hispanics. He wants to deport them if he can and make it harder for their extended family members to emigrate. I’m not Hispanic so there’s probably something I’m not getting but it seems odd to me.
Thrag
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Massive targeted disinformation campaign.
You got me as to how any Latino people would go for Trump at all, but at least it was still a minority of them* in 2020. Support did (unfortunately) go up, but there was a wide gap depending on education level.
What boggles my mind is that Trump’s support among white women went up between 2016 and 2020. Emboldened racists gonna be racist, I guess.
*err, us kinda sorta. To look at me and hear me speak English you’d say “white guy” but my mom is from El Salvador, my name is José and I was born in Guatemala and grew up strongly bilingual because my late dad, while “Anglo,” was a Hispanophile from an early age and ended up being a college professor of Spanish, with an amazing ear and talent for learning languages. He and my mom always spoke Spanish to us at home. So on forms I usually write in something like “White bi-cultural Anglo-Hispanic.”
What my rightward friends have always said is that there’s a strong entrepreneurial ethos among Latins/Hispanics, so they often vote (incorrectly) business-first. No idea if that actually maps to real polling data. Also you have a strong religious influence, I would imagine, as they seem much more Catholic than other groups, so anti-abortion probably plays strong.
Didn’t think of the abortion angle, but yeah, that probably plays in. Fuck the Catholic Church for going political over that and looking the other way over treatment of the poor and homeless.
Alstein
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Cubans went for Trump heavily, as virtuent “anti-Communists”
Also racism was a factor. Racism isn’t just a white person thing.
It really depends on the parish and congregation how gung-ho they are on that, in my experience. Some just give lip service to it because they’re supposed to, and a lot of actual Catholics realize that outlawing safe medical abortions just means that only rich women will be able to get them, and that there’ll still be all kinds of unsafe/botched ones, not to mention a lot more unwanted, throw-away kids.
And my distinct impression is that there’s more emphasis on charitable works among Catholics than among a lot of Protestant Evangelical “Jesus Loves You More if You’re Rich” types.
Mine also. It seems to me that Catholic Charities does a lot of good,while most Evangelical churches spend a lot of time and effort fundraising and sending untrained volunteers out on feel good missions. Then use the enthusiastic participants to help with the fund raising.
Houngan
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Perhaps, but my ignorant “but hey . . .” thought would be that the Catholic Church as an entity is so entrenched and so rich and occasionally so evil that they have both the resources and the need to do big flashy charity stuff, like billionaires.
I will admit to some bias, having grown up Catholic (though now thoroughly lapsed to the point where I’ll go to Mass occasionally out of social necessity–weddings, funerals etc. but that’s about it).
I was raised Presbyterian, but read the bible at 12 and stopped going to church after that. As I’ve become heavily involved in the Arizona Memorial and far more aware of philanthropic work in general, I’ve just started noticing what organizations are providing street level assistance, the Catholic charities, and Salvation Army (yes I know the army has its understandable issues with gay community) are really the two national ones I see the most… Whereas for the most part Protestants churches tend to send volunteers to Haiti or such.
138
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And I remember listening to a post-election story on NPR where older generations from…I can’t remember (Venezuela?) were voting against Socialism, while younger members of families were going straight Dem ticket.
