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They probably cut that part out.

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Edit: Wasn’t sure which one of the million threads we have that are appropriate for this I should put it in.

Also, since part of the headline is trimmed:

Catholic Monsignor Who Wanted to Deny Biden Communion Resigns After Cellphone Links Him to Gay Dating App

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Don’t trust shitty reporting about the Catholic Church that clearly thinks it’s scoring some kind of imaginary political point. Chances are 99.9% that they don’t know what they’re talking about.

We only know which bishops DON’T want to deny Biden communion (such as the bishop of Washington DC), because they have said so. The vote at the conference recently was not a vote on whether to deny Biden communion.

And anyway, the Monsignor is the general secretary of the US bishop’s conference, not a bishop. (You’d think reporters could tell by the fact that he’s not called “Bishop Burrill,” but apparently not.) So he administered parts of the meeting, but he didn’t have a vote. Which means however you want to interpret the recent vote about the Eucharist, it doesn’t apply to Monsignor Burrill.

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I take your point, but I also think that article actually scores the political point it’s trying to score.

I wonder, though: will they give the Monsignor communion?

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Don’t try to underscore his importance. He holds a leadership position there even though he’s not a Bishop. He may not be able to vote, but he has influence. I’m sure he felt next in line to be made a Bishop as well due to his station.

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If Denny’s hires a Klansman who shows up to work in his hood, you hold Denny’s accountable.
You don’t say he isn’t a member of the board and thus it doesn’t matter.

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He’s very important! But if you don’t like the bishops who voted for the Eucharistic document to be drafted, just remember that 30-some percent of the bishops in the conference, I think, voted against it. And Burrill didn’t vote at all. So we don’t know which camp he is in.

Um… You might want to re-acquaint yourself with the story before making this analogy. It’s not that Burrill is a bad guy and the USCCB or the Church should be ashamed and held accountable. The latest news is that Burrill appears to be hooking up at gay bars using Grindr. The article above was sneering because it thought (wrongly) that Burrill was a bishop who wanted to punish Biden. And… I don’t honestly know where the argument was trying to go from there. Probably something about hypocrisy?

The fact is, anyone who is connecting this to the communion question is missing the point by a mile because they don’t care about what’s going on in the Catholic Church, they care about what’s going on in American politics. It’s not about communion or Biden, it’s much more about the sex abuse crisis. That was the USCCB’s biggest responsibility over the last ten plus years. And one of the many take-aways from all the investigations is that people with authority who also have something to hide–even if they’re perfectly good people–contribute to a culture of cover-up.

Burrill is also putting his and the Church’s reputation for dealing with the sex abuse crisis on the line. There is an instance of a priest using Grinder and unwittingly sending pornographic pictures to a minor who lied about his age. While a vast majority of activity on Grindr is between adults, it is also used by predators to find underage boys. There’s nothing wrong with Burrill (if the indications bear out) being a homosexual, but there is something wrong with him putting the reputation of the Church in this beyond-sensitive matter–what remains of it–in further jeopardy for personal reasons.

And because this has nothing to do with Biden, if you’re interested in talking more about it, I should remind you that we have a much more topical thread for shit-talking about the Catholic Church. Come join us there!

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Perpetual infrastructure week lurches along.

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CharlieBrownLucyFootball

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Yep, I’m certain this is just a fake-out by Republicans, and they will find a way to delay the vote again and again.

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Right now it isn’t even a fake-out that’s particularly hidden 5 Republicans + Graham doesn’t get you past 60. So we wait and see.

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Yes, 5 or 6 Republican votes to advance the bill won’t buy you a cup of coffee.

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It’s basically going to end up: will McConnell at least say “Do as thou wilt” to his caucus or not.

It’s a complex set of things to think about for the Senate Republicans.

  1. An Aye vote kind of gives Biden a big win.
  2. A Nay vote probably tells Manchin and Sinema that this senate may not do anything. Which could mean…
  3. Lots of stuff from this package ends up folded into the partisan, reconciliation infrastructure bill. Which also gives Biden a big win. And this time, Republicans can’t take credit for it in their home states for what is likely to be popular at the local level.
  4. And if you’re trying to convince Manchin and Sinema not to do a filibuster carve-out for voting rights, it also doesn’t help if the Republican senate rejects a bill that would be popular and has Republican design fingerprints all over it.
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Now you may justifiably write all the Dems in disarray headlines that you’d like.

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Good lord what an utter piece of shit.

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She’ll face a lot of pressure if the House refuses to pass it. And Joe Manchin won’t be able to shield her.

I think she will cave.

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Also, pressure from her own constituents might work too in this case.

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I don’t think it’s appropriate for anyone to strangle her for the vote.

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To be clear, her current “no” is a very soft no.

She’s for moving the bill forward. There look to be a lot of levers to get her onboard.