215 pro, 194 against, need 3 now
NC delegate passes it
I need to go back to that AI thread and give some lyrics about Pelosi being a bad-ass now.
Dejin
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Washington Post: Congress approves $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill, sending measure to Biden for enactment
https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/11/05/house-infrastructure-reconciliation-vote/
13 Republican voted in favor, with 6 progressive voting against. Meaning that without Republican votes it would have failed.
Remember a picture is worth a 1,000 words.
Now watch the BBB bill die an ignominious death in the Senate, because reasons.
Definitely possible. But Virginia and New Jersey seem to have opened some eyes on Capitol Hill, too, as I suspected would be the case.
Anyway: it has indeed been one hell of an infrastructure week.
Alstein
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If BBB doesnât pass, this will be viewed as a stab in the back by the left, and I suspect this will lead to that caucus getting a lot more radical in future.
I hope the center of the party understands this and passes something close to what was promised.
If those promises arenât kept, the left will be sore , and likely sore enough to cause long-term trouble.
I hope what Iâm predicting doesnât happen- weâll likely hang separately if this happens.
Thrag
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Something will pass in reconciliation, the question is how stripped down will it be.
Timex
5270
Even if it does, the Democrats have managed to pull off one of the largest pieces of legislation in our lifetimes.
6 progressive voted against the infrastructure bill, WTF was that about? if an equal number of moderates vote against BBB, I think it is only fair to expect the Progressive to find 3 Republicans to vote for it.
6 votes from your caucus against a bill your party sponsoredâŚand the bill passes anyway is not super great news for the current relevancy of your particular caucus, righteous as the fight it is making may be. (To be clearer: this is no value judgment on policy or ideology. If moderates had voted against it and it passed, thatâs be a not-great sign about their current relevancy eitherâŚ
Timex
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Folks who voted against it, in both parties, shouldnât be taking credit for it come election day.
Alstein
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Theyâll be taking credit for voting against it, and it will play well in their districts, which are some of the most left in America. It was also Dems with national profiles (basically the Squad)
Ayanna Pressley surprises me a bit with her no vote though, she usually plays ball when it counts.
Reality is, if Jayapal wanted to kill this bill, she could have, enough of her caucus would be voted no. There was likely a promise made, one that if broken will put egg on Jayapalâs face, and some folks who sucked it up and voted yes will feel betrayed.
LOL.
No.
2022 is kinda going to be a realignment of the party, election catastrophe, in much the way 1994 and 2002 and to a lesser extent 2010 was. Not a goddamn bit of this factionalism is going to really matter, to be honest.
Anyone who tells you they know what the Democrats are going to look like in 2024 or 2026 is reading too much DailyKos, or watching too many Lincoln Project videos.
The vote tonight was essentially putting some nice things in a time capsule and burying it before the bombs drop next November. Maybe theyâll add another time capsule with BBB, too. And in 2024 or 2026 future Democratic candidates can point to it as something their party did.
Alstein
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I hope youâre right. Weâll see what happens now.
I know if it doesnât happen, youâre severely underestimating the anger of the left, and the relationship will become more like Obama-era Tea Party to mainstream Republicans in the future. Youâll see a lot nastier Dem primaries as well.
Yes, this will be painted as the âbig winâ to manufacture consent for killing his actual agenda. BBB will start to be called âgreedy,â mark my words.
The infrastructure bill is a gift to corporate America. And so as usual, the legislation with the social spending will be hemmed and hawed about before ultimately getting left by the wayside.
Timex
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That must be why Bernie Sanders voted for it.
