Wait, what?

Like…what?

These artisanal popsicles aren’t going to eat themselves!

Tax Amazon, dummy. If he’d just lean on Congress a little…

Typically that statement has been taken metaphorically but now I’m wondering, how many folks would it take literally using Mitch to support their weight before he becomes unable to threaten a filibuster?

Biden for small businesses, already signed into law via the bipartisan infrastructure bill:

Build Back Better infrastructure bill on small business, passed by the House, sent to the Senate:

“If only he’d do something, like give the power to pass legislation and enact funding to the executive branch…”

Ah fair point. I was being too glib about how easy that would be. It’s clearly impossible, sadly.

What I was not too glib about is that I sincerely think we need to stop with the weak gruel like what is in the BBB bills (trig’s links literally try to make the child tax credit one of their signature small business support policies?!) and start favoring small businesses over large businesses. The larger, the less favored. Whatever it takes to make Amazon’s prices higher than my local bookstore so that people would rather shop at their local… that’s what should be done. Don’t give small local businesses a tax break or two… give them money just to exist. Pay for it by taxing the shit out of large corporations.

Okay so I’m no policy expert. Im sure there are better ways to flip the table on the grotesquely large companies that are only getting larger and more powerful and more grotesque right now. But this seems like the simplest way, and I think that has something to recommend it. Very excited for you all to tell me how I’m an idiot and how our current trajectory is really very sensible and is going to lead to more thriving local economies.

I don’t mean this with any snark at all, but why is this desirable policy? We all have our own mental picture of ‘small business’, but what first comes to my mind is the millions of franchised fast food restaurants and cheap hotels, a substantial number of which are basically family-owned businesses. They are often some of the worst-offending employers in the job market. And they’re the good part of the budget hotel and fast-food market. Don’t get me started on independent fast-food and budget hotels.

I think its more that the Legislature legislates, not the Executive. The bully pulpit is not the magic wand too many people think it is.

Case in point, the two bills you just poo-poo’d, vs. what the President wanted. Your ire is misdirected, look to Congress.

Agreed 110%. The President can only do so much.

Oh, this is a good question! It definitely doesn’t help to blindly lionize all small business.

But in super-broad strokes, I think small, locally owned businesses:

  • Can be more personally responsive to their workers’ needs
  • Hire people who work locally, meaning they’re as diverse as their neighborhoods
  • Feed back good stuff into the local community–jobs, charity, demand for other local goods, plus many intangibles
  • Don’t pay their owners or executives m/billionaire salaries
  • Can price things to meet their local customers’ capacity to pay
  • Define success as paying everyone involved living wages, not raking in 1000x profit margins for investors
  • Don’t create ugly-ass multi-acre superstores surrounded by ugly-ass multi-acre parking lots
  • More easily exist within walkable, clean, mixed-use neighborhoods
  • Don’t need to digitally monitor the productivity of their workforce because owners and managers work physically alongside workers

And could potentially do all that stuff better if they weren’t always squeezed by the pressures of global commerce.

Wasn’t Biden asking for something like $3 trillion dollars? And was cut down to $2 trillion, but this is in addition to the recent infrastructure bill? I’m just curious as to what you would consider to not be “weak gruel”?

I’m all for investment in the US. Those seem like rather massive bills, though, so the description you used for it caught me by surprised.

Some of these may be things they can do, but they largely don’t do them. The ACA exists in part because small businesses wouldn’t fund employee health care. Is there any evidence at all that they pay better wages, much less a living wage?

And have you ever actually seen a strip mall filled with small businesses? My god, what an urban blight.

It strikes me that the easiest way to create incentives for smaller enterprises is a sharply progressive corporate income tax rate coupled with standards to ensure income is actually counted and taxed.

As a starting point, I’d settle for the standards to ensure the income is counted and taxed. Both corporate and personal.

Now, how to actually do that in a workable fashion in the global economy? I honestly have no idea. It’s a hard problem.

To echo Scott, why? I say this as someone is invested a lot money, and time with entrepreneurs and some small businesses. IMO, the reason that most small businesses stay small is they are lousy business persons. Politicians on both sides have mythologized small business for political reasons.
So I guess I understand why your view small business=good, big=bad is so common.

As Scott says small business are the biggest source of minimum wage workers. The $15+ min. wage laws in cities like Seattle and San Francisco, they have an exemption/extension for businesses who employ under 100 workers, aka small businesses. The vaccine mandate also exempts small businesses. In fact, there is a long list of OSHA regulations that don’t apply to small businesses. ACA doesn’t apply to businesses with under 50 workers, nor does family leave. So small business is the place where workers, can be underpaid, denied critical benefits, and work in unsafe conditions. Please President Biden make more of these.

Up until the 2017 tax law, corporate taxes were progressive. The proposed corporate minimum tax only applies to corporation with more than $1 billion in profit. However, most small businesses are tax as S corporation, which enable the owner to deduct things like the company car, cellphone, computer, health insurance, the season tickets to the baseball team. Plus a bunch of stuff, I’m not smart enough to know.

I don’t know about BBB, but I can tell you that the infrastructure bill is a giant present to small a business. First, almost all construction companies are small and medium business. The largest construction company is Bechtel, they have 1/20 revenue of Apple, they don’t build roads and not many bridges.
Almost all federal construct and most set-asides for small business, and most contracts under $150K have to go to small businesses.

As far giving money directly to small businesses what the hell do you think, we’ve been doing the last few years? Every one of the Covid relief bills had hundreds of billions of dollars targeted for small businesses, with the exception of the money for airlines in the first Covid bill. Large businesses were almost entirely excluded from government relief during Covid .

This is a nice overview of all the SMALL Business Adminstration Covid relief bills

Don’t get me started on the SBA.

So the thrill of briefly meeting President Biden on Friday has unfortunately transitioned into an unshakeable regret that I didn’t do a better job expressing gratitude for his leadership and appreciation for him being such a good role model.

Oh, well. This is what I do best; beat myself up. I’ll get over it. Hopefully our smiling eyes above our masks communicated the appreciation and gratitude.

Write him a letter expressing those thoughts. It may or may not make it to him personally, but the fact that you met him in person ups the odds pretty substantially it’ll make it through the gauntlet.

I probably would have blurted out something stupid. I hope you’re not our last sane and honest president.

I think there is very little evidence that most small businesses do this. In fact, I think many small business are not only bad for employees, but for customers.

Two example. Like you, I like bookstores. In the mid-80s there was a large independent bookstore near me in the heart of Silicon Valley. Like almost all bookstores, it didn’t allow returns. It is understandable what’s to prevent an unethical person from buying a book, reading it, and then returning. Yes, the owner, the main manager and some of the employees were knowledge about books and could make some suggestions. But after a couple of bum steers, I stop taking their advice, cause I couldn’t return them.

Then along comes Barnes and Noble who builds store across the street. B&N off course, had more books, cheaper prices. Plenty of B&N employees were also knowledgeable about books, although not quite as good as the independent. But, B&N had no questions ask 30 return policy. I didn’t abuse the policy, but if I bought book and didn’t like it I took it back. Eventually, the independent start offering store credit for returned books, all thanks to B&N, and later Borders.

That’s still true today most small stores have a far worse return a policy, than the big box stores or Amazon.
Even services, compare Roto Router guarantee to your local plumber.

Anyone, who’s visited Hawaii and walked into a local grocer has experience sticker shock
. It used to be far worse, Costco arrive in Hawaii in 1988. followed by most other Big Box stores over the next 15. I wasn’t here but my friend describe being really angry, not a Costco, but at the local merchants for having ripped us off for so long. The excuse for higher price they used was shipping is so expensive. Yet, Costco was able to sell goods in Hawaii for the same price as California. (I’ve verified this numerous times). In California, I didn’t shop at Costco much because a gallon of milk at Costco would be 50% more than 1/2 gallon at Safeway. In Hawaii, a gallon at Costco is the same as 1/2 gallon at a local grocery. So even if toss a quart cause it goes bad, I’m still ahead.

My experience with local small business is they offer a smaller selection, much worse prices, poor return policies and warranty support. and similar service. So why I want to support them is beyond me.

As for you believe that don’t local business pay their owners million. First, off all they are almost always private companies and unlike public companies don’t report this information, and so neither you nor I know their salaries or net worth. I do know that several of the local merchants died with estate > $100 million, so they didn’t do too bad.

Apologize for the thread jack, I think it is way cool the family got to me Biden.
Also Biden is good for small business.

This is a good idea. Thanks. I could even include a print of the photograph. Whether it reaches his eyes or not, it would make me feel better. Plus, if the Bidens stick to their holiday traditions, maybe we can get another chance next Thanksgiving! 🦃 image

Heck, maybe you will be posted to his twitter.