6507

Lets pull back, and give a non political example of why the media is shit.

What do you think the trend in violent crime is? From 1990 to today, what has the change been?

How about property crime? Over the last 60 years how has he shape of property crime and violent crime progressed in the US?

Ask the average person what their perception is, invariably it is almost universal that they think it is worse. Even liberals tend to have this inaccurate view. More liberals believe crime has increased than decreased.

yet this is objectively false. Property crime has decreased by almost 60% since a peak in 1982, and violent crime 53% (the Pew numbers use a different set than FBI data I’ve seen and show an even greater decrease).

Why is that? Simply put that is on the media and how they report things. Everything national has become local, it bleeds it leads, maximum clickbait titles, etc feed this perception.

So, yes, the media is responsible for shaping and feeding a false perception.

6508

To be clear, I’ve posted articles as recently as yesterday talking about this the media pundits coverage of Biden was unfair. I’ve not suggested that it wasn’t.

I merely made the sinnful suggestion that when the far left minimized and attacked the primary accomplishment of Biden thus far, that they hurt his approval rating among the Democratic base, which contributed to his current low approval rating among Democrats.

6509

And others pointed out that it may have been a drop in the bucket at most and/or requested evidence.

Still waiting.

6510

OK, dudes. Let’s take it down a notch.

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6511

Reasonable conclusions/opinions can’t be had if you don’t fund a study to prove your position.
Apparently.

6512

I can’t help but note that the pizza they’re eating… is not Chicago-style pizza.

6513

I wonder what her endgame is, given that this is very predictable. Is she going to go be a lobbyist for some corporate interest?

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I was hoping no one would notice. It’s the best I could do with a quick Google search.

6516

Almost assuredly. Lobbyist or some other corporate position.

6517

If so, what a departure from her start in the Green Party!

6518

Fund a study? I asked for something, anything, at least just pointing to posts referenced here.

When someone makes an assertion that seems a bit absurd asking for some evidence seems like a normal thing to do.

A premise that leftists talking down infrastructure caused others to become dissatisfied with Biden was introduced. Okay, where, what’s the scale of it. Especially considering BBB and voting rights getting killed by moderates.

6519

I’d argue it’s the most Green Party thing ever, they just usually hide it better.

6520

I mean the position of “AOC, Bernie and the like shitting on the BIF might have made people think it wasn’t great and passing it wasn’t a victory,” isn’t “absurd” imo. That’s a fairly logical sequence. You disagree on the weight Bernie and AOC have with people, but that doesn’t mean someone who thinks they have more influence is completely off the grid.

6521

How much do you think that actually accounts for in Biden’s negative approval?

6522

But then when we talk about the very same thing, you accuse us of blaming all our ills in the media. Why?

6523

Because pointing out the effect of more left leaning criticism of Biden is met with insane levels of disbelief.

6524

No idea. Probably a few percentage points. Biden was always on a tightrope. He was no one’s first pick so the second he did anything people didn’t like, he was going to take a hit for it.

Afghanistan was going to be a gut punch. Not having a real Senate majority was going to drag him down. Not cancelling loans. So on and so on. IMO no matter what he did his numbers were going down because almost no one was a huge Biden fan.

Edit: I do know my leftie-leaning friends were happy to jump all over him and quote Bernie/AOC while doing so. The right-leaning ones were a toss up between Afghanistan and whatever random thing he said or did. Actual Leftists always hated him, so it’s not like he ever got into approval. Far-Right people I no longer interact with.

6525

Also you used the term “might”. Might it? Sure. The likelyhood of it being a big part of any person’s decision in approving or disapproving seems a bit small considering everything else.

6526

Please, point out the effect. I’ve been asking you to do so. Not assume the effect, point it out.