Correction: down to 135,000 now.
25000- 5000 split, I think.
Grifman
3074
So key question, how many left to count after those updates? That’s the issue I’m hearing. Any idea?
Grifman
3075
Yes, I read they separated those out and are not being included in the reported numbers exactly because of this.
Dejin
3076
From 538 posted an hour ago.
Trump and Biden are now separated by about 164,000 votes, with Trump leading. But the more than 460,000 outstanding mail ballots left to be counted are likely to lean heavily Democratic. And at least 116,000 of them come from Philadelphia, a very Democratic-leaning city where mail ballots so far have gone to Biden by more than a 9 to 1 ratio. If Biden wins those outstanding mail ballots by something approaching the margins he has been winning mail ballots statewide, those mail ballots should give him the lead statewide.
Still, there’s some uncertainty here, with different sources showing different numbers of outstanding mail ballots. The New York Times’ dashboard, for instance, may overestimate the outstanding votes in places like Philadelphia; its current estimate implies turnout for the two major parties in excess of 800,000, a sizable increase over the roughly 693,000 votes cast for major parties in 2016 at a time when lots of college students aren’t in town due to remote learning. That discrepancy could reflect a lag in adjusting for mail ballots that have already been counted. Or it could reflect provisional ballots — or the fact that mail ballots can arrive after Election Day, too.
And it’s hard to know how many total provisional ballots are out or how they are likely to break given all the voting by mail, although Biden won the large number of provisional ballots in York County, a GOP stronghold. The upshot: The votes are certainly out there for Biden to take the lead, and that’s my best guest, but there’s no guarantee. Caution is the word of the day.
This is excruciating. I am going to have to step away from the news for a bit and do something else.
Enidigm
3079
So i mean, those ballots have effectively already been discarded then? Will they ever be counted? Or are they already considered “out of bounds”?
Grifman
3080
I found at this point in the game where small batches of voting results are being released, the NYT data is not being updated on a timely basis. I would not base things on what you see there.
I mean that text is from 9 minutes ago
mono
3082
Seems all too easy for Trump to pull out AZ and we run out of blue votes in GA/PA. I’m taking the dog for a walk.
Grifman
3083
They haven’t been discarded, they are still there to count, just not yet. They will be counted as a discrete batch so they can be taken out if required.
Matt_W
3084
Where are these numbers from? The PA SoS’s website still has a 216,000 vote gap with 763,000 ballots left to be counted. Also lists Dems has having about 65% of mail ballots by party affiliation, though that says nothing about how they actually voted. About 10% of mail ballots have no party aff. (And Dems would need about 64% of remaining ballots to win.)
Grifman
3085
All I can tell you is what my experience has been over the last day in tracking results. Perhaps they are making a better effort as things get closer. But yesterday, even their updates lagged. YMMV.
Rward
3086
Please keep Safe and Sane all you Americans (and others that are tracking this election).
Have some fruit, get some sunshine, take deep breathes, stretch a little.
Take a break, go for a walk down to your favourite eatery, grab a bite and try relax a little.
You want us to catch COVID?
Enidigm
3088
I have to lol at that. +1 like
kerzain
3089
So, which remaining states should we expect to have called (barring court battles and recounts) by the end of today?
They’re going to count them separately. They’re doing that to narrow the scope of any decision to exclude late-arriving ballots. Also, the reports I read said there are very, very few of such ballots.
At this point, I’m feeling like PA and GA are just those things where a supervillain gives a little bit of hope just so that it’s all the more crushing when you finally lose.