Time to stop with the “South is all racist mouthbreathers” jokes I guess. The problem might be in the North now.
kerzain
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Not if you live in Mexico.
Yeah. It’s been kinda agonizing waiting for the inevitable.
Yes! (from Germany). Thanks to you all for this thread. It has helped me a lot during the last two days. A lot of Germans were very afraid of the implication of aTrump win (Paris agreement, WHO, NATO, etc.). While I just lurk here in the forum most of the time this was the closest to being with people who discussed the events in a sane manner. Thanks a lot.
kerzain
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I want to see a tweet from Biden after the results are in and he is declared the winner:
gg ez
I signed off for a 4-hour nap. Has there been any news about the pace of counting in PA?
I believe they quit for the night. I think they might’ve even said it’ll be Saturday before they finish.
i agree. it was here and The Guardian that kept me up to speed. though, of course, given the circumstances, we are in a ‘bubble’. i’ve also had a few, so uncharacteristically posting outside the dominions thread ;)
Alstein
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Biden just took lead in GA just now.
So I’ve been thinking about the polls, and while certainly there were off by a lot in certain places (Florida being the most egregious) they have also been really useful in other ways, and pretty spot on.
I am specifically thinking of those polls that told us that the mail-in voting was going to be overwhelmingly Democrat. Without those polls (or if those had been off and shown a smaller spread) this all recounting and calling of States would have been very different and Trump might have had an easier time projecting his message earlier.
The polls allowed the media and the Decision Desks to be ready for the different “mirages”.
Dejin
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@Koz posted it up thread. It’s definitely a super-useful website.
Dejin
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Definitely true. Could have been disastrous as early results would have set up the narrative as “Trump likely won” rather than expect a blue shift.
It will be interesting to see the analysis afterwards if they can figure out what went wrong,
I just don’t see how national campaigns can work without having at least somewhat accurate polling to try to figure out how to allocate their resources. I guess you could just go with your hunches and hope you’re right — if the polling is that far enough, maybe that’s just as good.
It would have been tragic, no discussion of pizza, Gilmore girls, wine. So thank you PA and Georgia for giving us an 72 hours of suspense. Better than any thriller.
This is certainly true. And another thing: assuming that the situation holds and Biden wins NV, AZ, PA and GA, then the 538 analysis of the polls will have predicted the winner in 48 of 50 states. The two misses were FL and NC. This, despite a significant polling error more or less nationwide. That strikes me as…not at all bad, for an analysis fed bad data.