The Biden Won & it's OVER, Deep dish pizza is delicious, & Gilmore Girls is awesome thread

[MichaelD]

Oh NYTimes…

There were still several crucial Senate races that were not yet called that Democrats hope to win, including Maine , and Democrats remained bullish on their chances in Georgia .

Election Highlights: With Votes Still Being Counted, an Anxious Nation Awaits...

[MikeOberly]

Fuck Rove in the ass in the Alps, but of course he’s right here.

John McCormack (McCormackJohn)

[SadleyBradley]

@Timex

You make Mitch refuse to vote on bills that are explicitly designed to limit corruption, and you hang that shit around his neck in 2022.

Not around his neck, but the neck of every Republican up for reelection in 2022. Make it so that the leading question for every incumbent Republican in 2022 is “Why haven’t you tried to work with McConnell to move forward with this legislation that limits corruption/helps people/etc?”

[Thrag]

He added “I mean we’ve tried. We’ve gamed out all the scenarios. If there were a way we’d have found it.”

[triggercut]

@MikeOberly

Fuck Rove in the ass in the Alps, but of course he’s right here.

https://twitter.com/mccormackjohn/status/1323908868011950080?s=21

He and his wife came into the restaurant I managed in a past life one evening. And he was absurdly nice. Like “Are you on Lithium?” nice.

[SadleyBradley]

@Telefrog

You can do stuff with executive orders, but will Biden use that power? I don’t believe he will push through any substantive changes. He might roll back some of Trump’s bullshit, but by and large I think Biden will try to work through Congress because he’s that type of guy for better or worse.

I’m choosing to believe Biden when he says nothing will fundamentally change.

Unfortunately.

[Timex]

I feel like Rove is a smart, amoral, rather than immoral man. He’s about winning for the folks who pay him.

[Koz]

Yeah Maine is going back to Collins. Even if the second round gets kicked off there’s not enough votes to beat her. I’m not surprised she won but I am surprised by how much, I thought it would be close.

[FinnegansFather]

@triggercut

And I’m not buying that Georgia is going Trump.

Agreed, based on what I have heard regarding where the ret of the votes are.

But do you have any info on Arizona? I hate to be paranoid, but
a) when the NYT last posted the info late into the night, it looked like that was the one state where most of the remaining votes were to come from red areas,
b) an error has just been corrected such that there are more remaining votes than previously thought, and
c) when a campaign (not just the asshole candidate) keep complaining about a call for hours, they often have reasons

But I can find very little info now on the state.

[triggercut]

Thomas Kaplan, in Wilmington, Del. 23m ago

Biden is expected to address the American people at some point today, his campaign manager, Jennifer O’Malley Dillon, tells reporters.

[KevinC]

@FinnegansFather

But do you have any info on Arizona? I hate to be paranoid, but
a) when the NYT last posted the info late into the night, it looked like that was the one state where most of the remaining votes were to come from red areas,
b) an error has just been corrected such that there are more remaining votes than previously thought, and
c) when a campaign (not just the asshole candidate) keep complaining about a call for hours, they often have reasons

But I can find very little info now on the state.

I see only 85% of vote counted in Maricopa which has been strong for Biden, so I don’t think it’s just red areas that are outstanding.

[triggercut]

@KevinC

I see only 85% of vote counted in Maricopa which has been really strong for Biden, so I don’t think it’s just red areas that are outstanding.

And Pima (which is Tucson.)

Fox and AP seem to be standing by their call.

[SlainteMhath]

@DaveLong

Anyone that would like to meet the people who voted for Trump can come to PA and attend a sprint car race with me post-COVID. It’s a standing invitation.

You’ll find out that these are usually nice folks who are completely misguided by Fox News and the media they consume. They also dislike people like you on this forum who think you’re know-it-alls. They’ll change their stance on something the moment they need something for themselves. They do not have a concept of the wider world beyond the backyard of their home in the small town they grew up in and the few places they attend regularly for entertainment. They just want another bully to follow unless they’re the bully themselves.

This perfectly describes nearly all of the Conservative Trump-loving friends I have here on the west side of Cincinnati, and believe me, they are legion. Super nice people who have no concept of the fact that they’re being lied to and manipulated daily by Fox News, politicians, religious leaders, etc. into playing their part in keeping the status quo. Don’t try to open their eyes either, because then you’re either an elite know-it-all who looks down on regular people or one of those socialists who wants to take all their hard earned money away and give it to the freeloaders. These people haven’t just drunk the Kool-Aid, it runs through their veins and powers their very existence. I have no idea how we break this stranglehold on 40% of the population without literally banning Fox News, OAN, Facebook, etc…and at that point we’ve become the very totalitarian fascists we fear.

I am disappointed in my fellow Americans this morning. We can’t blame poor turnout either, as we had record turnout this cycle, it’s just that more people than we would have ever expected seem to have fallen under the Trump/GOP/“No Socialism!” siren song. Even if Joe Biden wins, Democrats need to be ready to mobilize in this kind of force at EVERY election for a decade or more. There are more American Idiots out there than anyone ever suspected, and battling them to save the nation is going to take several election cycles.

[Papageno]

@Koz

Yeah Maine is going back to Collins. Even if the second round gets kicked off there’s not enough votes to beat her. I’m not surprised she won but I am surprised by how much, I thought it would be close.

Probably “because Joe Biden will bring SOCIALISM TO AMERICA without a GOP Senate!!1!” Or some other nonsense.

This country’s fucked.

[jpinard]

@MikeOberly

Fuck Rove in the ass in the Alps, but of course he’s right here.

https://twitter.com/mccormackjohn/status/1323908868011950080?s=21

While at the individual ballot level that’s the case, but beyond that who knows? Georgia Repugs stole the election from Stacey Abrams.

[KevinC]

@triggercut

And Pima (which is Tucson.)

Fox and AP seem to be standing by their call.

I did a quick scan of the “red” counties and they’re A) small and B) almost all above 90% reporting. So seems like Trump would have a pretty big uphill fight to win a lot of the outstanding vote in Maricopa to swing it into his column? He’s gotta make up 3.4% or so.

[jpinard]

@SlainteMhath

This perfectly describes nearly all of the Conservative Trump-loving friends I have here on the west side of Cincinnati, and believe me, they are legion. Super nice people who have no concept of the fact that they’re being lied to and manipulated daily by Fox News, politicians, religious leaders, etc. into playing their part in keeping the status quo. Don’t try to open their eyes either, because then you’re either an elite know-it-all who looks down on regular people or one of those socialists who wants to take all their hard earned money away and give it to the freeloaders. These people haven’t just drunk the Kool-Aid, it runs through their veins and powers their very existence. I have no idea how we break this stranglehold on 40% of the population without literally banning Fox News, OAN, Facebook, etc…and at that point we’ve become the very totalitarian fascists we fear.

So basically selfish assholes that put on a nice cover.

[Diddums]

@KevinC

Are we able to put to rest the “Hillary Clinton was a terrible candidate, only a terrible candidate could lose to a monster like Trump” thing now?

Yes.

And in the same breath, Joe Biden would have won in 2016.

Hey, you brought it up.

[KevinC]

Damnit. :)

[FinnegansFather]

@KevinC

I see only 85% of vote counted in Maricopa which has been strong for Biden, so I don’t think it’s just red areas that are outstanding.

@triggercut

And Pima (which is Tucson.)

Thank you both. I feel pretty confident that Biden has won the election, but that definitely assumes Arizona is really his. If not, it would be more than a wait, it would be ultra tense.