The Biden Won & it's OVER, Deep dish pizza is delicious, & Gilmore Girls is awesome thread

[triggercut]

DDHQ is ahead of that count. It’s ovah, as they say in Pepperidge Farm country:

[AK_Icebear]

@Scrax

We just need about 250,000 Californians to bite the bullet and move to North Dakota and South Dakota, each. Come on guys - do it for the team.

This has been my advice to anyone complaining about the electoral college - play the long game, spend a generation living in a swing state.

[BrianRubin]

@Scrax

Come on guys - do it for the team.

[Gordon_Cameron]

Might be worth it just for the rents over there. Good lord, I could even dream of owning a house!

[Menzo]

@triggercut

Wisconsin seems headed to a recount.

The good news is that Trump asked to stop counting votes so there’s no need!

[Enidigm]

This absolutely does work - look at Colorado. Colorado has been swamped by transplants, and now it’s solidly blue.

Honestly Bloomberg should stop spending money on ads and start funding Empresario grants for immigration to the Dakotas.

[Gordon_Cameron]

@AK_Icebear

This has been my advice to anyone complaining about the electoral college - play the long game, spend a generation living in a swing state.

Wouldn’t it be cool if we could, y’know, change to a fairer system, rather than forcing millions of people to upend their lives so their votes will count?

I know, I know. I’d also like a pony.

[KevinC]

@BrianRubin

I mean that’s good and all, I just wish it were DONE. I’ll be able to relax then. Until then I’m just mentally preparing for, as someone put it earlier, shenanigans.

I feel like maybe I’ve been a bit on the optimistic side in this thread but let me be a downer here: I don’t think we get to relax. Say the WI recount finishes, Biden wins that state and holds on to AZ, NV, etc. He’s the next President.

But DJT is still in office for two more months. He’ll be screaming about voter fraud and stolen elections and the deep state every step of the way out the door. His supporters are predominantly less educated, heavily armed, and many believe that the Democrats who “stole” the election are pedophiles, cannibals, or worse.

And that’s just the interim. We have 2022 coming up where we have to take the Senate and we have to do it in a midterm where the tide so often turns against the incumbent. And McConnell is going to do everything he can to make sure Biden and the House can’t make things any better in the next two and four years so they can secure a bigger majority and the Presidency in 2024.

We don’t get to relax, I’m afraid. It’s looking like we’re going to stagger through and win this battle but there’s still a long war ahead of us and I don’t think there’s going to be a whole lot of time for quiet contemplation and breathing easy.

[Menzo]

I’m telling you, if this goes down 270 to 269 or within 1-4 EVs, we’re going to hear a lot about faithless electors in the next 30 or so days. There are 13 states with no rules against them, and it would be perfectly legal for, say, one of them from Pennsylvania to switch their vote from Biden to Trump and throw the Presidency to him.

It’d even be tempting for an Elector who hates the electoral college system to do it just to showcase how terrible it is and hope for its abolishment.

[rowe33]

@Scrax

We just need about 250,000 Californians to bite the bullet and move to North Dakota and South Dakota, each. Come on guys - do it for the team.

No, we just need a bunch of Democrats in shit states to move to other shit states. Give up on some to win others. They’re already living in shit states so what’s the difference?

[antlers]

If Trump somehow pulls this out, it will be the first time in history that a candidate with an absolute majority of votes, rather than a plurality, is denied the election. That is kind of a Rubicon.

[Houngan]

I always love it when we get to this point. Those horrible tribal people on the right, eh? Not like us, our states are good and we make lots of money!

Can you all even hear yourselves when you do this? And you wonder why the right wing pretty much clusters around hating liberals as a credo?

[Noman]

@KevinC

And that’s just the interim. We have 2022 coming up where we have to take the Senate and we have to do it in a midterm where the tide so often turns against the incumbent. And McConnell is going to do everything he can to make sure Biden and the House can’t make things any better in the next two and four years so they can secure a bigger majority and the Presidency in 2024.

Having the presidency, house and reduced GOP majority in senate, along with a DoJ which actually acts like one, are all huge developments.

Also @KevinC, I am very sorry to hear about your loss. Condolences for you and everyone in your family and friends.

[AK_Icebear]

@Gordon_Cameron

Wouldn’t it be cool if we could, y’know, change to a fairer system, rather than forcing millions of people to upend their lives so their votes will count?

Sure. Explain how you’ll do that if all those swing states keep going red. A constitutional change to the electoral college isn’t happening until the voting habits within it change. I think it’s more likely to happen by encouraging movers, rather than finger wagging from the blue states to red/purple states.

A plan has to not only be right, but workable.

[Houngan]

Abolish the EC, would be my plan.

[Menzo]

Add 300-400k new Democrats to Texas and we never have to worry about a Republican President again.

Just get them to move from Ohio and Florida.

See Also: Pathway to Citizenship.

[Timex]

Honestly, a lot of those midwestern states are beautiful.

So if you took a bunch of progressive folks you like there, it’d be like paradise for you.

[AK_Icebear]

@Houngan

Abolish the EC, would be my plan.

Again, explain how under the current voting trends by state.

[Enidigm]

A point was made by others that one reason to keep the EC is that voting rights and voting laws are by no means uniform on a federal level. If you got rid of the EC you’d have enormous incentive from Red states to massive push for voter disenfranchisement and not, necessarily, any way to stop it.

If you abolish the EC you need to at the same time regularize the voting laws across the country.

[Menzo]

@Enidigm

If you got rid of the EC you’d have enormous incentive from Red states to massive push for voter disenfranchisement and not, necessarily, any way to stop it.

Isn’t that happening anyway? Why do you think it’d accelerate, or if it could even accelerate at all.