ShivaX
3194
Because all black men are criminals?
That’s basically what you’re saying. All black men are criminals until proven otherwise.
rowe33
3197
This is getting eerily similar to the argument that a woman should just give in and let rape happen because it’ll go easier for her.
Imagine the description of Joe Smith was of late 20’s African American male, 6’3, bald, muscular build, wearing jeans, and a red shirt, and gold chain. That would be a pretty good description, not racial profiling. Neither you nor I, know if the description was male black or what I said.
According the DOJ police initiated contact with blacks 3,509,000 times in 2015,at rates roughly the same as whites.
Anyway I’m done speculating on this year old video.
RichVR
3199
So because cops are underpaid they can be assholes? Got it.
So you think any time cops put handcuffs on the wrong guy they are assholes.
Again what should the cops have done?
RichVR
3201
You must get tired, pushing that goal post.
No I didn’t say that, I said criminals lie. Again what would you have done as the cops?
Nesrie
3203
A 2017 NPR/Robert Wood Johnson Foundation poll found that half of blacks said they had been unfairly stopped by a police officer. About 6 in 10 said they or a family member had. That means that if you know two black people, one of them feels they’ve been treated unfairly by police.
It must shock you to see this level of a reaction since you don’t seem to understand the problem. You seem think that that recording, hell the fact they even recorded it, is just out of nowhere. That a cop killing a black man was just a human mistake… and if your head is anywhere in that case by case space… then how hard can it be to understand the systematic oppression and violence against a people that has led to this moment?
Almost every black and brown person who gets pulled over or stopped by a cop, they’re probably praying someone watches, someone keeps an eye on it, someone records it, and EVEN then it did not save Floyd.
When white people see video of unjust police abuse of a white person, it may make us angry, sad or uncomfortable, but most of us don’t see ourselves in the position of the person in the video. If we’re polite and respectful, we think, and don’t put ourselves in scenarios that lead to confrontations with police officers, there’s little chance that we’ll ever end up like Daniel Shaver. When black people see video of Officer Derek Chauvin kneeling on George Floyd’s neck, their reaction is much more likely to be that could have https://forum.quartertothree.com/t/the-black-lives-matter-movement/120215/3203been me — or my son, or friend or brother.
And there was great rejoicing.
rowe33
3205
Cops lie all the time. They’re even allowed to lie to suspects during interrogations.
rowe33
3206
Some white kid wanted for starting riot in Pittsburgh.
In case people are curious, some Christians are downright pissed off at Trump
Actually I’m surprised it is only one out two. I’m not disagreeing with your conclusion at all.
Yesterday, on twitter I posted this link on a smart woman twitter thread who was questioning the racial bias in policing.
I’ve read a number of the studies and I whole hardly believe the author’s conclusion.
I was even going to post the link some random dude on Facebook, but I decided since he was quoting Ben Shapiro, he was a lost cause.
In any case, after more than a decade covering these issues, it’s pretty clear to me that the evidence of racial bias in our criminal-justice system isn’t just convincing — it’s overwhelming. But because there still seems to be some skepticism, I’ve attempted below to catalog the evidence. The list below isn’t remotely comprehensive. And if you know of other studies, please send them to me. I would like to make this post a repository for this issue.
I’m simply saying if you are looking for examples of bad policing this is a poor video. First, because it went viral by being deceptively labeled. Second, there is so much we don’t know about the context, that it just doesn’t strike as being a particularly horrifying example of police racial bias. I think if it was a white guy, saying that shit he probably would have ended in handcuffs also. Maybe I’m wrong. I still haven’t seen anyone tell me what the cops should have done instead.
There are far far better examples, like the picture Timex posted. See now that shit would never happen to white dad.
Lantz
3210
My example of systemic racism is better than your example of systemic racism is an interesting hill to die on given what is happening today.
You maybe right, but it is the same reason I critic Biden ads, and get mad when people call all elected Republicans Nazi’s. Words matter, and weak arguments are bad arguments.
Nesrie
3212
Oh I don’t need examples of bad policing. No one had to convince me. I’ve known there is a problem since before we had video proof of what the rest of us have been saying for years and no one listened.
No. No the very need to find examples of videos and to dissect them to meet your need still plays to this very thing:
When white people see video of unjust police abuse of a white person, it may make us angry, sad or uncomfortable, but most of us don’t see ourselves in the position of the person in the video. If we’re polite and respectful , we think, and don’t put ourselves in scenarios that lead to confrontations with police officers, there’s little chance that we’ll ever end up like Daniel Shaver.
This is literally what you were claiming right up to the polite respectful bit.
This…
When black people see video of Officer Derek Chauvin kneeling on George Floyd’s neck, their reaction is much more likely to be that could have been me — or my son, or friend or brother.
We don’t require videos to know what this is like. We can read it, envision ourselves and our loved ones not coming home while someone sits back and says… well they should’ve…
No. I don’t need examples. I certainly do not need that. We’re at the point in time where the police have to earn back trust, not the other way around. They no longer get the benefit of the doubt. That ship sailed several black lives ago… and we have their names and their dates and their loss readily available to show everyone why.
I’ve really changed my mind. He’s a very masculine man. Extremely courageous.
