How long until they find a job with another police department, I wonder…

That particular element (where known bad actors from one State just move to another and then get employed again doing the same job) is one aspect of the US police system I’ve never understood. Is it that no one does any background checks, or they just don’t care?

It’s worse than either. It’s deliberate. Police unions have too much power and get them rehired.

It’s worse than changing states, it can easy as moving one city over as “police” usually refers to municipal departments. There are also county level law enforcement(the Sheriff and deputies), and federal law enforcement who are typically called “agents.” As for backgrounds checks, de facto practice at my (not policing) company is not to fire somebody with cause, but to let them resign in most cases. Most HR departments won’t give the salacious details for why somebody resigned, which is probably for the best as it would give bad acting employers the ability stop their employees from working at other companies with bad recommendations. Instead, they will just say the when and in what role the person worked for them. I don’t know if police departments operate similarly, but it wouldn’t surprise me.

So, we have thousands of police departments (~18,000 according to Wikipedia including Sheriffs, state police, and federal agencies) with their own hiring procedures and standards. Some of the fired officers probably interview very well, other departments are probably understaffed and take who they can get, and others are just incompetent or outright malicious in their hiring. A bad officer only needs to find one willing to hire them.

The governor was not amused.

I would leave the dog, and remove the old guy. That’s a smart dog!

Wilmington is a beautiful city with loads of Southern Charm (<–said without irony), but it’s worth remembering that the city was and remains the only major US city to every had its democratically-elected government removed and replaced in an armed coup d’état. Wilmington was Tulsa a quarter century before Tulsa - the city went from majority-black to majority-white in the course of a week, and remains so to this day.

It is a garage pull.

It is also most certainly a noose.

If I was working for Bubba Wallace’s crew and saw that, in the current environment, I’d have said something.

Ken Burns take on this…

and you know, the black people that are tearing down statues and the white people defending the statues and using this and that Norwegian Karen to back up their argument

All I see is a bunch of white people offering sneering condescending opinions on why a statue is so important to white people, and how the protestors and minorities should all know who he was before they tore it down (because of course the white man has made sure that minority literacy and education is perfect in the US) and a white Norwegian woman demanding that funding is spent replacing it rather than spending it on local minorities and basically promoting herself and her town.

I don’t see a host of articles written about my reaction to this, so drop the attempts to gaslight the last remaining fucking minority on this fucking thread. If none of you get what’s going on here you have no idea how our lens and experiences view these issues.

If they didn’t know who it was, why did they tear it down?

If they did know who it was, why would they have torn it down?

because its a civil war era statue in front of the building where the white politicians rule from and next to where they are demonstrating?

Shit happens, its just a statue. It doesn’t matter if its gone. So what if white people want a statue so they can say “not all white men” and pat themselves on the back?

Yeah, I guess it’s a door pull that someone went through the trouble of adding all the loops to make into a legit hanging noose. Fucking weird.

So you are saying that they tore it down because it was a statue of a white guy.

And you think that’s ok.

I will say this: at boy scout camp when I was 12, an older kid taught me how to tie a noose, and for no other reason than it being a cool knot to tie and having seen them in countless westerns, for weeks I was knotting up old shoelaces, spare twine, whatever into nooses just because of those reasons.

Those other pictures I wasn’t so sure (in that I just couldn’t see it clearly), but that one is crystal goddamn clear.

Ya, I gotta say the same thing.

I’ve tied nooses before, without thinking of them as something you’d hang a person with at all. Just because it’s a cool knot. It has a clean look to it.

In the case of the pull rope on the door there, it’s likely that it was tied for the same reason. It gives you something to grab onto that looks fairly neat.

It wasn’t directed at any particular black folks, because… let’s be real… there haven’t traditionally been any black folks in NASCAR.

But at the same time, if I was on Bubba’s crew, I’d likely assume that it was made with malice towards him, given the context.

It’s not a super good knot for a door pull though, I wouldn’t think…because the noose is the handle, and pulling on it tightens the loop.

Wait are you seriously saying it’s totally innocuous? It just happened to be on the only black driver’s garage? The day after NASCAR banned Confederate flags?

Yeah, kind of. The investigation discovered that this pull had been in place for a year. And the assignation of garages at the Talladega event was done randomly, and they were satisfied that there was no intent or even knowledge when that garage was assigned to Wallace and his team.