Akaoni
1882
QTAnon
I am shocked, shocked I tell you. I put up a fake AAR, derivative of what any scout watching one battle could tell you and a bunch of wild guesses, and you all fell for it? Even better, the real Marignon player has yet to even call me out! He’s letting me get away with it! Well, I would still be getting away with it, that is. If it wasn’t for a certain private message, I would still be ‘woe is Marignon, curses to kelan/direaussie/strato/pyrhic/evil steve/psyanojim/sharaleo/lloyd/random other aussie for eliminating me from the game.’
So now, because of the kindness of one person, I have to reveal myself as not being Marignon. Will the real Marignon player please stand up?
That was fake?
IMO, disinformation is “diplomacy” in a no diplomacy game…:(
Akaoni
1884
The intent of it was to have a bit of fun with the real Marignon player calling me out. Since that isn’t happening, I went ahead and revealed it as fake.
I highly doubt that the fake AAR had any impact what so ever on your decisions in the game. It was about a dead nation, which would not have any further impact in the game. And one piece of information, disinformation or not, can hardly be called diplomacy when there is nothing else diplomacy-wise to corroborate with it.
By your reasoning, us even talking on this board is diplomacy.
My first no dip game, which has been frustrating, so I probably overreacted…
Did the “no dip” meant you couldn’t warn someone you were going to take an inde province so they should take care?
Or transmitting info like “this player is very big and attacking this small player” (which imply maybe he should be stopped).
QTAnon
Just assume everyone is lying, thats the approach I would take :)
Basically nothing that can be translated directly into in-game knowledge is allowed in QTAnon
So saying, for example, ‘everyone attack Marignon’ is definitely not allowed, anything which reveals your nation is not allowed, any private communication with other players about the game situation is not allowed, etc…
But saying ‘psyanojim looks scary’ is fine, since in theory at least, nobody knows what nation I would be playing, and if I’m being sneaky enough, I might even be making people guess incorrectly :)
And saying ‘Marignon is dead’ after they have been eliminated is fine, since its public knowledge when they are removed from the nation list on llamaserver
And I also consider Akaonis fake AAR to be allowed, because it doesn’t identify his real nation to anyone, and doesn’t cause any harm to an already dead nation.
So maybe I should amend my last post to ‘nothing that can be translated directly into accurate in-game knowledge is allowed’
Oh. I understood “no diplomacy” as no private exchange of information, no NAPs, no trade, no alliances, and things like that. The conditions of the game were even harsher.
Yep… QTAnon is short for ‘Anonymous’ - no diplomacy, and nobody knows for certain who is controlling each nation (except me)
Akaoni
1892
QTHangman
So when will this be starting? I ask since I assume that we will stop the Snoozers game when Hangman starts. My impression ( which could be entirely wrong) is that the Snoozers game is largely over, and we are just playing around with end game builds. I find myself in the unique position of blood hunting with Pans so I can get the Ice and Arch Devils, for instance.
And I find that even with a rune smasher and spell focus, a mystic with S4 cannot mind hunt a fomorian thug worth a dang.
Nikolaj
1893
I would assume that’s because that guy is a vile traitor, and his conscience is haunted to the detriment of his mind hunting abilities.
I think we’ve stretched the rules of RAND a bit. If we were really strict then no discussions would be allowed at all besides those related to admin. To be honest I wouldn’t mind relaxing the rules a little more to allow for non directed observations or even voluntary nation reveal now that we are into midgame (like our 1v1 team game), but I understand that that is not what everyone signed up for.
Yeah Snoozers is over from my point of view. Hangman game should get opened for pretender submissions as soon as I finish the map - have been too busy to start on it yet! I’ll try and create it quickly tonight then put it up for testing.
As far as I’m aware, despite the trash-talk and misdirection, the anonymity is mostly intact.
Trouble is, most of you guys are quite familiar with each others playstyles, so a certain amount of guessing about identities is bound to start happening at some point. Unless you actively modify your play to try to confuse people, of course :)
Even a totally strict no-communication game will have some meta-gaming going on, its unavoidable.
pyrhic
1896
Anon: assuming Akaoni’s post is actually fake, i’d say it crosses the bounds and we should avoid repeating the scenario: Someone might’ve believed him and sent him a pm revealing themselves which then would have just created a giant mess.
Hangman: sorry, i’ve been tied up. I’ll get back involved in the game this week.
Snoozers: I hate to say it, but i don’t think it’s over yet. I found an interesting spell that I never ever got to use before, and it might actually make a difference. I think a round or two will suffice to see if it will …
Sorry mate, you can’t just wish for a win… ;)
pyrhic
1898
Shh…we dont know that yet!
Akaoni
1900
Aw, I wouldn’t call him a traitor. He was just distracted by the charms of Dryads. I didn’t think that it was that effective, as seductions go. I only ever got three Mystics, and lost quite a few Dryads.
Mystics seem to like Dryads much better than Fomorian druids do.