Well, I love that feature. Withouth it, it will be zerg vs zerg 24/7. The ability to hide make so the hunter can be hunted, ambushing, and other stuff that generally you only get on very high quality pvp, but here any newbie is doing it.

I think it’s one of the best things they’ve done. I agree it doesn’t make too much sense for a gigantic army to be somehow stealthed in the middle of the field, but if they are it’s not like they’re doing anything useful. Also, Cyrodiil is so huge they’re never going to get anywhere unless they mount up and move.

Basically, what Teiman said. Plus it makes it possible to actually survive as a small group of 2-3 people. See a zerg rolling down the road? Your group can hide from them until they pass, rather than just getting steamrolled.

It wouldn’t work at all if the map was small, but being as massive as it is I think it works out quite well.

i think they actually hit the stealth system pretty well. You do have maintain the ability to suspend your disbelief a bit with the stealth in an open field type situations. The alternative was to make stealth location dependent and that would most likely be a data/processing problem.

I’m spec’d for the best level of stealth that I can get atm. Vamp so no move penalty, Khajiit racial passive, 5 piece medium armor, 2 night shade daggers and a necklace. An angry mob usually can’t find me unless they have detection potions or mage light.

I never run with a group but I get the biggest chuckles watching a guild group or pug stay in stealth just around the corner of a resource waiting to all charge at the right moment. I always try to get on the other side and wait for the wounded/fleeing retreaters and go for them.

That said, lag can make the stealth system act really weird. Plus there are things like drinking a potion (might be fixed now) or using shadow cloak that can give your opponents a brief glimpse of where you are. Overall it’s a nice system especially if you are built for it. Speed with stealth is really nice as well.

I’ve tried to find out when exactly this is going away from a monthly sub, but I can’t seem to find a firm date beyond “March.” Anyone know where to find that info?

March 17th.

But if you buy it now, you get a free month of subscription, which will give you extra cashstore bucks when it goes B2P in a week.

March 17th i read somewhere today but not sure where

Was it one post above yours, perchance?

I enjoyed this game, but never quite got into it enough to pay another monthly fee. Looking forward to checking it out once it’s free.

Heh, I bought it a few weeks after it came out I think. And thanks for all the replies! I’m downloading the client now for the hell of it, but man is it SLOW.

Luckily you have 11 days to download it, I must start it as well, looking forward to giving this a proper go still there is a lot of good stuff coming out in the next few weeks, cities, GTA V and Pillars of Eternity, good job I have a month off in May

I pulled it down, I bought it when it came out and played for like one weekend and have yet to get back to it. What kind of state is it in? Should I get back into it and try to get some of my investment back out of it? Is there an advantage to being a subscriber before the game goes B2P, or at this point should I just wait 11 days and play it when everyone else gets into it?

If you are a subscriber when the switchover happens, they pay you out in the MT currency (Crowns), I believe.

I started playing again. Actually, I had purchased ESO on release, playing pre-launch, and never bothered to register my key or play after launch. It really is dramatically improved now. All the technical issues are gone and combat is much more responsive.

Of course these impressions are based on a character who just dinged level 8, and while there are no technical issues now they may pop up when the game goes B2P next week. But so far, so good.

Yeah, the game feels significantly more polished and smooth than it did a year ago (as you’d hope, after a year of development).

I think you get 500 crowns when you return plus 100 for every 30 days you subbed. I only played the beta, but I may pick up a copy now. It looks like most items are between 500-1000 crowns and similar to LOTRO stuff like quests and zones.

Does ESO have the same sense of exploration as Skyrim, or is this mainly focused on PvP or some type of group battles?

Edit: I actually asked a similar question a coupel months ago. Anything to add to this response?
[I]As far as I’m concerned, pretty much all the character building/levelling mechanics are better than any previous Elder Scrolls title, and although this is fairly faint praise, I think the combat is better as well.

That said, it is not as good at any of the things Skyrim (or Morrowind) are actually good at.[/I]

That response is dead-on.

Hmm. That’s a shame. I’m still on the fence. I played the beta and was boooooored. Not sure if there is any reason to pick this up if its more fedex and kill rat stuff.

Lots of fedex and collect this quests. BUT, you will also come across some really cool and rather complex quests as well. One for example is so horrifying that I still shudder to think about the “questionable bag of meat” :)

Plus, there is a quest or two where you can really be a jerk and get the nice reward. I sold a certain mage to Sheogorath for example and got a very nice bonus. I had to take the whole questing thing very slow after I hit 50. You end up going through the other faction zones and it gets a bit much. So I pvped a bunch and did the Craglorn grind and then went back slowly through the other areas so I could actually listen to the dialogue and enjoy the better quests. You have to fight the temptation to speed through everything because you feel like you are falling behind. That’s the worst thing about the new Champion Point system. I takes the rat race feeling and boosts it past 11. Everybody is grinding to get the first few passives to be “competitive.” I love the game but I really think some of these decisions were pretty bad. I hope it does well all the same. The combat system really is nice. On a lag free day in Cyrodiil you can almost see oblivion.

You’re quoting me there, so I just wanted to note that “not as good” is not the same as being bad at those things. It’s a game I enjoyed and will come back to at least sometimes now they’re dropping the subscription, but it doesn’t quite map onto the offline Elder Scrolls games. And in a lot of cases it’s because it’s an MMO. I am still not convinced that it being an MMO is bringing anything to the table, TBH.