Lots of fun names on the display of marines:

thats amazing. And a pretty broad scope of series too.

O’neil and Riker would either be best buds and an amazing tag team, or utterly loathe and hate each other. I want to watch that duo now.

Damn, I still haven’t watched any of this (last, apparently) season. Gotta spend some quality time with the 4k TV.

I … don’t get it.

What was the point of the colony? Was the whole point to give a reason that Inaros would lose his a potential avenue of retreat because reviving the kid reactivated the protomolecule? If so well, it didn’t matter in the end anyway except to maybe open up the future for when the protomolecule re-appears in sequel. Then again it wasn’t even the kid’s resurrection that reactivated the protomolecule because they received a response before he was brought back, so … I’m just confused.

Last season, didn’t that Mars ship intentionally go through the red portal thing, and when Naomi was analyzing the other red portal disappearances didn’t she claim that they were intentional and you could predict them? So why were people trying to go through the red portals if it just killed you?

What ship had it’s reactor overloaded to cause the Pella to be sucked into the red portal? With the explosion that occurred it couldn’t have been the rocinante, as it almost looked like the ship was destroyed, or at least badly damaged.

I think they needed 2 more episodes at least to actually close the threads. I’m a bit disappointed.

Book sequels that won’t get shot, I imagine. I’m kind of curious, if anyone wants to spoil me.

Too busy/uncaring to figure it out?

The same freighter from which they launched all those containers from.

I guess quickly going back, the Barkieth didn’t intentionally go through the red portal, it was intending just to go to Laconia with everyone else. I assume that was the Barkieth in the sky that the Laconia admiral was looking at, mutated by the protomolecule?

So does that mean despite going through the red portal the barkieth still ended up going through the ring to Laconia? I know that Marcos had threatened that unleashing the protomolecule was the last resort, so I guess that’s why he was distraught when laconia said that they wouldn’t be helping him anymore, but wouldn’t Marco have known that the Barkieth was taken out and the protomolecule not exactly accessible anymore?

I haven’t read the books, but my guess is that it was a sort of backdoor pilot for another Expanse show that covers the last 3 books, which supposedly take place far after these and don’t involve many(or any?) of the same characters.

That being said, I think I may grab the last three books and read them on my own. Seems like as good a point as any to jump into them now that I’m caught up on the show.

For me the show overall stuck its landing. Given its scope, I could also have done with another season - but I also appreciate that it got to conclude at all rather than remaining buried after SyFy dropped it.

While it ends on an overall satifying note, I’d also say that seasons 5 and 6 probably were the weakest of the bunch for me, with season 2 and 3 being the peak. The politics in the earlier seasons seem more complex, and the mystery of the protomolecule was also more interesting to me. The final two seasons focused on the conflict with an antagonist whom I never really got invested in, and the struggle of three factions transitioned to inners vs. belters, with Mars kinda ceasing to be a part of the conversation - Bobby aside.

With hindsight, I’m certainly not fond of the Laconia plotline for the reasons mentioned by Kalldrexx. It largely felt disconnected and tonally different from the rest of the show, and I was waiting for it to come into play for the main story. Except it never does. Don’t care if it’s supposed to set up another show - felt like wasted time that could have been spent elsewhere.

It’s tricky because without spending the time in the books with all the belters, good and bad, it’s a bit hard to really care about Marcos. He comes across as a pop-up big-bad without much context, because it’s hard to keep up with anything in such a complicated world, much less patois-heavy cultures that are hard to even hear.

Overall I’m satisfied, I think they did about as much justice as I could have expected to a space opera. I could ask for more, but then it would also slide quickly out of any mass appeal into nerdland, and that doesn’t sell shows.

To reply to LKallDrexx’s confusion: The colony (called Laconia) was set up by a splinter group of Martian Naval Forces who left during the earlier wars after they discovered that the planet had an intact protomolecule shipyard. They effectively sealed themselves off North Korea style. You may notice that they also had the psycopathic protomolecule researcher on their team who was the guy who got the shipyard operational. The undead kids are another side plot in the books. In the books the Laconians become a much bigger threat than Marcos ever was because well, protomolecule warships etc. In the series it seems like all they did was help set up the defensive batteries and vaguely promise Marcos some ships.

The red portal thing is apparently something like awakening the Elder Gods by putting too much traffic through the rings simultaneously. The entities really get pissed off by it and are supposed to be the cause of death of the creators of the gates. (I think, it’s been a long time since reading the books and I haven’t started the last one).

This has relevance when the last communication from Laconia was them saying that they had some Gods to deal with. In the books they had plans to communicate with the entities by nuking the rings. Fuck around and find out philosophies continue in the future it seems.

The Alt Shift X people of Games of Thrones fame have an episode up on the finale. Now I finally know what those Laconian doggies really are.

I’m in season 3, with James Holden talking to “Miller” and just entering the ring…

I am enjoying the show, watching at least an episode a night!

I thought the final episode was executed fairly well generally, but the whole thing kind of felt rushed, especially in the SPX:

The scene where the Pella sheds her “disguise” coating looked particularly bad, almost like Babylon 5-era CGI… I honestly wonder if it was an early render that the editor grabbed by mistake.

And while I generally enjoyed the marine assault stuff, the scenes where Amos is strapped to the chair howling and moaning were just silly-looking. I know he was supposed to be straining under 15 gravities worth of acceleration, but he looked/sounded like a man on a power-armored toilet after eating a particularly bad space-burrito.

And once on the surface of the Ring Station, all the grunt-soldiers stuff looked like something from a video game. There wasn’t much the CGI guys could do there: The surface of the station is glowing blue and the sky is glowing a lighter blue so it was always going to look cartoony, but then they went for the point-of-view, heads-up-display views from inside the characters’ helmets, and it made the whole thing look like Unreal Tournament… and not a new one either.

But on to the stuff that I liked: Naomi’s grief over having to kill her son was well-acted, though she seemed to get over it too quickly in later scenes. Clarissa’s health struggles should have been introduced earlier in the season, but she got some fun stuff to do. I liked the dinner scene, especially casting Amos and Bobbie as bickering kids (“It’s not ready yet!”). The final scenes setting up the Transport Union were pretty good – I liked the framing of the sequence where Holden gets drafted; they set it up to look like “The Last Supper”, which was a great touch.

But I really wish this had been a longer season. With all the setup between Marco and the blonde second-in-command, there was really no payoff. Similarly, Filip’s big moment - such as it was - felt like a massive letdown after all the time we spent with the character… it wasn’t great in the books either, but I was hoping for something better. Did we ever get any payoff for the whole thing with Filip and his prisoner buddy? That seemed to just kind of… peter out.

I also wish that they had done a “five/ten years later” sort of closer. Those are generally terrible, but since this was theoretically the series finale, it would have been nice to show that everyone’s sacrifices had led to something good… I would have loved to see an end-credits animation similar to the opening-credits animation showing new colonies or a prosperous Belt. The final scene with the Rocinante getting smaller and smaller was fine… but not great.

I doubt it. Everyone knows that O’Neil with 1 L has no sense of humor.

Well that does make things make more sense but, it all seems to require the books for extra context because (unless I missed something) there was almost none of that context in the show. So it seems like the final season was a tribute more to book readers than show watchers, which probably could have been fixed by them not rushing the season.

I took the “we got gods to kill” just to mean “we need to deal with the protomolecule”. I had no idea there was a shipyard on Laconia, I just thought it was a single ship with the stolen protomolecule that suddenly came alive, which thinking more about it still doesn’t make sense because if the whole plan was to harness the protomolecule isn’t it coming alive exactly what you wanted?

Meh, now I have to figure out if it’s worth it to still read the books or if my enthusiasm has been killed.

Yeah this part I am still confused about, because I had no idea that the little girl was on a planet with a shipyard. I’m still not certain what was going on in that part of the storyline this season.

But I certainly enjoyed it! The cinematography used to show the strike teams landing on the planet were pretty cool. Too bad there is no next season.

Exactly. That really bothered me. It was a function of truncating the storyline to fit everything in, but they could have tried for a more of a transition in her emotion in the final scene with Holden.

As someone who has not read the books, this video was very helpful in appreciating the conclusion. Thanks for posting it.

Not having read any of the books, the conclusion to the series, and the video posted above, makes me interested in at least reading the final three books. Though I’m concerned the series divergence from the books would make that idea – jumping in at book 7 – kind of crazy.

Slight, and I mean slight, argument in favor of Naomi, she had already crossed that line when they had the first fight where Holden disabled the torpedo, so maybe she was already farther down the acceptance path than he was.

Yep, that’s definitely a problem of the show. That character and hisson came kinda out of nowhere and suddenly are the main point of the story. And when they announced that season 6 was going to be the final one, it was a bit disheartening because it meant Inaros would stick around as antagonist until the very end.

Doesn’t help that whatever Keon Alexander did didn’t really work for . I’m not even sure if he tried to chew the scenery during these oh-so-rousing speeches Inaros occasionally gave or not, but I wasn’t feeling it.

I would have been fine with Filip dying on the Pella along with his father - even having realized the error of his ways. As it happened, it was just super-predictable.

I think that side-plot had two purposes: 1) building a bit of sympathy for Filip again among the audience by having him care for the guy and helping with regards to the status of his brother; 2) Filip learning about Inaros being responsible for the Ceres bombs. While it wasn’t shown, I’d accept the thought that Filip’s sympathy for the guy went out if the window the second he learned that he had helped do something that would put his own people in harm’s way - thus ending their bond.

We just finished this as well, and while we enjoyed it, agree with the general feeling of being rushed and losing momentum. The stakes just didn’t seem very big this series for some reason. Perhaps this is due to having lost viewing momentum. My wife and I binged S1 to S5 last year, and coming back after a year and forgetting most of the details and threads didn’t help. I’m sure we’ll rewatch it eventually and probably enjoy it more as a result, but this was probably my least favourite season.