1668

I would argue that Kassad’s story was Space Opera and Lamia’s was Noir (or Hard Boiled if you prefer).

1669

So I never finished the last two seasons. Had Prime and watched 4, but it lapsed.

Now have prime again so started over. And the show really is that great. Season 3 in particular has so many great moments. Amos in particular gets time to shine.

Seriously, the scene with the kids in episode 6 where Amos says ‘I am that guy’ just crushes it.

I can’t wait to get past season 4 and see where this went.

1670

Wes Chatham needs more work.

1671

As someone who’s read all the books, and most of the short stories, I was impressed by how well this TV show adapted them.

I’m almost always disappointed with movie or TV adaptation of novels but this was good.

That said, why did they waste our time with the Strange Dogs plot line when it didn’t have an ending, as it did in the books?

It was really a bizarre choice, since it was my understanding they knew before the last season was filmed, it would be limited in number of episodes.

1672

That made no sense to me either. And it probably took a good 30 minutes out of the final season’s air time.

1673

Yeah, same. Haven’t read the books and that whole plotline was a bunch of ???.

1674

Without going into book spoilers, the Strange Dogs thread sets up some important plot points for anything that might follow the show that would touch on the last three books. And while the producers at that point likely knew they were done at Amazon, they might have been hoping to shop the show around or follow up with a movie or something. If that never pans out then yeah, it looks like wasted time and effort that could have been better spent with the characters we’ve come to care about.

1675

Strange dogs refers to the new proto molecule that occupies the boy on the Martian colony?

1676

It’s a bit more complicated than that but in a nutshell, yeah. That storyline was lifted from a novella that accompanied the novels titled Strange Dogs. The dogs in question refer to the creatures the girl encounters in the woods.

1677

Yeah I also wondered at the introduction and conclusion of this in the series.

1678

…it makes a lot more sense if they want to do anything with the later novels, since those novels feed pretty directly from the Strange Dogs storyline, including some of the same characters.

That said, unless they go down that road, it was definitely wasted time on screen for the TV show.

1679

I’d argue even if they go down that road it was wasted time on screen. It’s obvious they were already constrained on time/budget and since any continuation of the Expanse story that utilizes it will be years away at a minimum, they will need to recap the strange dogs story for the continuation to make any sense (and for people to remember).

1680

People will still be able to watch The Expanse beforehand. On their VCRs and such.

1681

This. I’m pretty sure that Amazon plans to do the second series, though perhaps with a different cast. I figure the “Strange Dogs” stuff is there to grease the skids.

1682

I got hung up on season 4 for some reason took me a few trys for it to get my attention, but once passed that its great again. Wish I had pushed thru sooner, since that makes me part of the reason they got canceled.

Glad Bobby didnt die, but was disspointed that they had to put in the white knight moment and have Amos save her, tho it does fit his character.

Marco is classic narcsisst, its crazy. Tearing people down emotionally, then building them up again. Everybody around him walking on eggshells not to upset him, while at the same time so eager to please him just to a drop of praise.

1683

I had a boss like Marco. Everything you described is incorrect other than us being eager to please this person to get a drop of praise. We were eager to please this person to avoid the emotional beatdowns

1684

Edit: thought that was privte, didnt mean to blast that out there.

1685

No, I’m the one who needs to apologize!

I wrote
Everything you described is incorrect other than…

I meant to write
Everything you described is correct other than…

A stupid typo. I should have caught it. I understand how it would have come across extremely badly, and I apologize. I was trying to agree with you 100%. Your post made me re-examine both a show I like and a former boss I did not like.

1686

If you want to get into the Expanse series but havent yet you can get the first book in the series Leviathan Wakes, for $2.99
[https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0047Y171G/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1]
(cross posted in the ebooks thread)

1687

Just closing up this sub-thread –

I just finished reading “Memory’s Legion” which is the collection of Expanse-related short stories previously published plus one additional tale.

The last story has Filip as the main character and is set after the climax of the ninth book, set some 30 to 35 years after the events of the TV series. It answers a lot of the questions, and the authors’ note after the story explains why they felt that a reunion between Naomi and her son wasn’t necessary.

Minor spoiler/commentary: I personally was a little disappointed by the short story and the directions it took with the character. Filip has a change-of-heart about his life’s choices and walks away from his father’s twisted love and (one would think) into a better existence. The short story tells us that he went from being a smart and talented but deluded young man and turned into a timid, miserable adult who is incapable of forgiving himself or allowing himself any measure of happiness. That’s a shame and I can’t help but wonder if it would have been better for him to die with his dad.