3088

Where does a 35 year old go that they can socialize with 17 year olds? Unless it’s a friends or neighbors daughter (or son), you are probably looking for someone that young.

And that friend or neighbor probably isn’t too happy about it. :)

3089

A movie set, apparently.

3090

Except 17 is literally okay in some states. 13 is not okay in any state that I know of… most should be developed at 13 but not, not all actually. But again, MeToo isn’t just about criminality. It’s largely about abuse of power, manipulation and holding someones career hostage. All of that can be a problem regardless of age.

3091

Gah, let me see if I got this straight from the articles… so Argento commits statutory rape with a teen she previously hired as director to play the role of her child. She then goes through multiple versions:

  1. Bennett raped me.
  2. It never happened.
  3. Ok, fine it happened. But Bennett was harassing me, I mean Anthony Bourdain. It was totally Bourdain’s idea of paying my victim off.

All this happens concurrently with #Metoo.

Rose McGowan’s reaction: “let’s be gentle”, y’know not too hasty. Let’s not do the whole listen and believe thing. And then: “my heart is broken” (but I’m not actually denouncing anything, though).

3092

Oh, i absolutely think it should be.

It’s not simply that they are of different ages… It’s that he was a minor.

3093

This is my take as well.

3094

Louis CK already back doing some stand-up.

3095

Hallelujah! That’s great news.

3096

/notsureifserious gif

3097

Yep, serious! I love Louis and I value his insights on life immensely. I watch his work the way other people go to church.

I recognize the severity of what he did. I feel he’s paid a proportionate price in terms of lost revenue, business partners, a big reputation hit, a year in hiding, and one of his films got torpedoed. I know some of the women he debased himself in front of and traumatized have accepted his apology. Not sure if all of them have.

Mostly, I feel like he’d be an invaluable voice in the #metoo discussion, especially from his front row perspective. Curious to see if he’ll address it on stage or in print interviews or what.

So, not letting him off the hook completely, and I can understand why others would choose to tune out on him forevermore. But I’m eager to see what comes next.

3098

What is the sticker price for that sort of thing these days? I think it should cost him everything, even the shirt off his back, but that’s just me.

3099

Well, that’s the question, isn’t it? We’re in uncharted waters. Happy we’re making long overdue progress but I also think forgiveness is a virtue. And, on balance, I think he brings far more good into the world than bad.

3100

I could take him or leave him. He was never my cup of tea.

Still, don’t think he has suffered long enough. Maybe in a few more years, but not yet.

3101

Seems like a zero consequence situation if he can just sneak back on the stage and continue as usual. And that wasn’t forgiveness, that was a celebration.

3102

If I were guessing, I think he’ll probably still keep his head low and work up a new hour of material and then self-release it on his website.

No clue how you could characterize it as ‘zero consequence’, Nesrie. That’s bananas. Unannounced sets from famous comics are quite common so I wouldn’t call it sneaking. I also don’t know what you mean by forgiveness vs. celebration. I forgive him (mainly because I believe the women he victimized have done so) and would celebrate with applause if I saw him live.

3103

Louis was never going to go away completely. He’s too popular and his crimes weren’t terrible enough that people were going to turn away forever. He also had built himself a strong, independent distribution network where he doesn’t rely on an overlord the same way that other entertainers do. He may have to reinvent himself, or find a way to address his past in an honest and heartfelt way, but he will be back eventually.

3104

You can do whatever you like. It’s been less than a year and applauding his return and shouting hallelujah is a celebration. It’s barely a slap on the wrist for less than a year.

It seems doubtful he’s being asked to do even that, from his fans.

3105

Again, not just a slap on the wrist.

I remember debating him with you when the news broke last year and, if memory serves, you’re not familiar with his body of work or his comic voice. So, take it from those of us who are… he’s not the kind of performer who needs to be asked to address subjects in an honest and heartfelt way. It’s just what he does.

3106

See, here’s the thing, I find this to be interesting. Louis is the kind of performer who I could see seriously grappling with and incorporating into his act. A public exercise in becoming better.

Or he could go the other way. Which he does, and how the public responds, says a lot about our society I think.

3107

Some fans will need that and some won’t care. I think it will be hard for a lot (possibly me included) to go back to enjoying his crude sexual standup bits without being straight forward with them about what he’s done. There’s a certain honesty that he has cultivated in his standup and I think a lot of people will need to hear his take on it. I will lose respect for/interest in him if he tries to dodge it completely and go on with business as usual.