3369

I’m not stopping him from getting a job as a ditch digger or factory work, so I guess, nothing.

As a comedian. Maybe it’s no longer a field that is open to him in any meaningful way. Maybe he doesnt live this down, and maybe that’s okay. Maybe he can step aside and allow other comics a chance.

Or maybe instead, he does something meaningful to atone. Go out and short a few documentaries about poverty and womens rights somewhere. Maybe do few art house movies.
What did Mel Gibson’s do these last few years?

No man is guaranteed a job in this country after all.

3370

I’m not sure, but at the very least it should start with actually getting consent from people before doing shit.

3371

Well the first thing to do is stop calling it a sin. If he wants to atone for a sin, that’s between him and God, or any other belief he holds Christian or non-Christian. His first step forward should have nothing to do with his career, his public self and if he’s asking how do I get back to work, he’s asking the wrong question and so are you.

It not normal behavior for a man to to repeatedly trap women in a room and force them to watch him masturbate, and he did that for years. You think I’m being vague, but you tell me, what would happen to you to make you think that’s okay. I don’t know, so I don’t know how to fix it. There’s probably professionals out there who might be able to work with him on that, and maybe it’s never appropriate again for him to be in a room alone with women who are not meant to be his sexual conquests. Sometimes the answer is not wanted, but it’s still the answer. Maybe he just needs to go find a horse ranch somewhere and write, out of the limelight, away from the public and only inviting willing women over.

3372

He directed Hacksaw Ridge!

3373

Are we talking about him showing up to do a short set? I mean, that’s fairly standard operating procedure for comedy clubs. No one has to get your consent to go up and do a set on stage unless you’re the owner of the club.

3374

I’m still not seeing an answer to the question.

What does he need to do to appease you?

3375

I gave you an answer. It’s just not that answer you want.

3376

So is your answer just that you don’t know what he can do?

3377

Read it again.

3378

Yeah, there aren’t a lot of AAA titles until that time. Or any, really. So, what was that, 6-7 years, give or take?

3379

Ok, I read it again.

So, your answer is that you don’t know what he can do, combined with “maybe he can’t ever atone, and should go away forever.”

That about right now? If not, what exactly am I missing? I read the entire post twice before posting this, just to make sure I wasn’t missing some subtle insight.

3380

You’ve got cancer. How many days does it take to cure it. You don’t get to ask professionals or wait for test results. You’re not sure where the cancer is. You’re not even sure if treatment is available. Tell me right now how many days it will be before you are cured and then tell me how you got that number.

3381

You’re being evasive, and I honestly don’t understand why.

You’re complaining that he hasn’t done what you want, but when asked what that is, you won’t give an answer.

I mean, what’s the test? How does he pass?

3382

I’m not being evasive. I am telling you why I can’t give you an answer in the format you’re demanding from me. I am also not complaining he hasn’t done what I want. That’s what you keep saying I’m doing, but I’m not.

3383

I think I’m too tired to continue this.

3384

If you think a guy who preys on women for years can just wake up and say, whelp i am done with that, was caught, no harm no foul… well that’s that, that’s why we’re in the state we are today.

The only difference between now and 9 months ago is he said sorry one day and came back the next. There is nothing, literally nothing, that suggests he is any different. There absolutely is nothing that suggests he is changed. That fact there is no calculator or formula to tell you that, well that’s your requirement, not mine. There is something wrong with that man, and I do not know if it can be fixed but I am pretty convinced it takes more than a one apology letter full of regrets.

3385

I asked you what your requirement was, and you didn’t have one.

3386

That’s because I don’t know what the hell is wrong with him or whether or not there is a fix. You don’t seem to care maybe because you have no risk at all in this.

3387

Your position is unreasonable, because the only thing he can do to appease you is to just go away forever, and possibly die.

If you had some, any, kind of actual requirement for him to meet, then you’d have something approaching a real position. But you don’t. There’s literally nothing he can do to make you happy (besides just ceasing to exist).

You have created a situation where your perspective cannot even be considered. There’s no way for him to consider what you want, and try to work towards it, because you have no concrete or actionable elements. It’s just rage against him.

Rage is fine, but it’s not productive. It doesn’t actually achieve anything.

3388

There is no duty to forgive, forget or otherwise provide a clear path to redemption in any one person’s eyes. We’re all fully within our rights to tell CK, or anyone else, to fuck off forever.

If that somehow makes us ‘irrelevant’ to him, so what? I question whether we are, as individuals, relevant to him now (note, that’s rhetorical). When was the last time he dropped by, just to say hi?