The Left's Intellectual Doves Turned (Reluctant) Hawks

Among the Doves-Turned-Hawks are officials at Harvard and Berkeley, as well as Nobel laureate Eli Wiesel. Basically, the NYT is recapping a story it did a couple months ago already on this very subject.

I think this is a sizable chunk of the reason why:

Others who are not joining the ranks of protesters say they base their reluctant support for Mr. Bush at least in part on their concerns about Israel.

“Israel was not in the gulf war, but all of a sudden he began dropping Scud missiles on it,” said Mr. Wiesel, who is also a professor at Boston University. In an opinion piece in The Los Angeles Times this week, Mr. Wiesel wrote that he would ordinarily choose to march against war, but that in this case he cannot bring himself to do so.

So why can’t Israel just take out Sadaam themselves? His military is a withered husk of its former might. Why do we have to put our soldiers in harms way for another nation that has the military capability to do it themselves?

The Wilsonian Democrats, interesting article.

So why can’t Israel just take out Sadaam themselves? His military is a withered husk of its former might. Why do we have to put our soldiers in harms way for another nation that has the military capability to do it themselves?

Because they’d get fucked up by every Arab nation within fighting distance of Israel. And they need their military to stay home and keep things buckled down.

So if our taxpayers are risking their lives and footing the entire bill for a war to defend Israel against Iraq, why are we expected to pay them for the privilege, rather than the other way around?

Senior U.S. and Israeli officials yesterday began negotiations on a “special military aid” request by Israel for up to $4 billion, along with $8 billion in loan guarantees […] The $3 billion to $4 billion Israel seeks would be spent on American-made military purchases to prepare for the impact of a U.S.-led offensive against Iraq. In addition, the money would help fight terror, Israeli officials say, referring to the continuing conflict with Palestinian militants in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. […] Israeli officials said the request for U.S. aid is driven in part by the cost of developing defenses. For instance, they said, the missile test Sunday cost $10 million. The requested aid, officials said, will help defray costs of deploying the Arrow missile, which the country will rely on to intercept Iraqi Scuds. […] One Bush official said the requested aid could help Israel stay on the sideline in another Iraq war, but the White House downplayed the link between the payment and Israeli restraint in November.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030107-550893.htm

Israel probably still pissed about (one of the) last times. You know, they get invaded by Egypt, kick their ass back across the Dead Sea and farther in six days, then world pressure makes them give the land back. You are Israel now in 2003… why do you bother?

Because they’d get fucked up by every Arab nation within fighting distance of Israel.

Various Arab military alliances are a cumulative 0-4 in trying that, most recently in 1973 when they launched a sneak attack for which Israel was badly unprepared.

Israel will launch pre-emptive strikes against any Arab nation that genuinely poses a present danger. (Saddam will vouch for that.) The fact is that Arab states don’t usually pose a sincere threat to Israel – autocratic Arab leaders have simply found that anti-“Zionist” rhetoric tends to keep theirdispossessed citizens in a righteous lather, and their minds conveniently off the fact that they live in squalor while their unelected leaders live it up in palaces.

Well, the Yom Kippur war did get the Sinai back, and a peace treaty, so it wasn’t a total loss. But no Arab country even comes close to Israel militarily.

The IDF is far too occupied in the Territories (no pun intended) to wage a war against Iraq. Also, they wouldn’t be able to stay in Iraq once the war was over, since they don’t have the manpower for an occupation of that scale. And, of course, there would be unforeseeable consequences in the region.