The Mother 'Effin WEATHER Thread


#3889

Meanwhile, here in Michigan an unfortunately timed fire at a natural gas facility has resulted in an emergency phone blast requesting all residents turn their thermostats down to 65F. Many of the state’s auto plants have shut down to reduce consumption.


#3890

Jesus that’s awful. Stay warm tonight, Qt3 <3 <3 <3


#3891

Yep, and here to say that as well. Didn’t realize there was a natural gas fire. Yikes.


#3892

Sounds like SOP for DTE to me.


#3893

Ah, so that’s what prompted that broadcast message! I was gonna go look but now I don’t need to bother.


#3894

Jon, you can appreciate my coworker’s comments on a conference call yesterday. We were all saying, “well at least we don’t live where Dave is, I wonder if he will even make it to the office?” To which, Dave piped up, FROM the office in Bismarck where he drove in with -32 temp not counting windchill and said something to the effect of, “guys I was born here and live in this. This isn’t a weather emergency here, it’s a Wednesday.”


#3895

Well, it appears the pipes didn’t freeze overnight. I had the ones that run through the unheated garage (closed but still very cold) on a slow drip. They are insulated too in the ceiling, but still. The rest of the house’s pipes run through the center and floor.

I actually checked the cold water temp with a meat thermometer, got down to about 45F in the bathrooms over the garage, the kitchen was around 52 F (which is what I assume the typical groundwater temp is)

So, not too close to freezing, but getting refrigerator cold water out of the tap is pretty crazy.

The puppy isn’t a fan of the cold, but she survived enough time outside to potty, and she was very much willing to want to go for a walk, but you could tell her paws were not up to the task.

I can’t wait for it to warm up this weekend, 40 degrees will feel like summer!


#3896

For the curious, makes you wonder why they are so reliant on one plant, but I guess you don’t expect that plant to fail during a time of unprecedented demand.


#3897

I think our dogs would start a rebellion in the house at those temps. They shiver and act reluctant here if it goes below 30. We have coats for them, it helps a little I guess.


#3898

It took a real Old Testament, this is what would have happened if Eygpt was in the upper latitudes storm to shut down things in MT when I was growing up. I can recall the schools only shutting down once in the late 80s when it was -40, before the windchill. At -10 below and lower they just kept us in during recess.


#3899

It never got that cold when I was a kid, but yeah, I don’t remember ever being closed due to temperature. We just went to school and had to stay inside all day if it was single digits or below.

Schools here have been closed the entire week, I don’t recall ever getting more than maybe two days off in a row. If they think us Millenials are bad, just wait until this pampered generation grows up!


#3900

I wonder if the kids go to school fewer days, too. The GF’s daugher, a high-school senior, has been getting something like 11 days off in a row for spring break. We got a M-F week off and that was it.

They seem to schedule teacher’s meetings on Fridays before a three-day weekend which turns it into a four-day weekend. I’m pretty sure the teacher’s meetings are basically a boondoggle. I talked to a teacher who admitted as much. Come in, eat some donuts, meet for an hour or two, and go home.

I don’t really care. I’m just surprised at how often this kid seems to be off school.


#3901

He said something similar, things rarely shut down, if ever. I mean, if you grow up used to that I can see the frame of reference. But I can also see where a place like Chicago grinds to a halt if it doesn’t happen nearly as often there.


#3902

Shit man, I grew up in Louisiana. If it looked like it might even possibly snow, they’d shut everything down. And then everyone headed to the grocery stores and picked the shelves clean.


#3903

Indeed. -40 is seriously cold, but if you’re living in an area where this can happen any given year, you have the gear to mitigate it.

It’s weird to see how seriously (or not) certain regions plan for this. When I was in Tulsa, an inch of snow was enough to bring that city to a halt, yet it’s not a place that is foreign to the concept of snow. It happened every year I was living there.


#3904

I think the general push in education has been to shorten the summer break and spread those lost days off out during the school year. Lots of studies about how much kids forget during summer break.


#3905

Some of it is if the city will invest in trucks to plow and salt to combat the snow. We have them here in St. Louis so we do ok with snow. I mean, we still have accidents, but the roads get improved pretty quickly.

We do seem to get less snow than we used to, so we probably have a new crop of drivers who don’t have a lot of experience driving in it.


#3906

I just want to mention that at -40 you would need some pretty serious gear to mitigate it. And while it has happened maybe 3 times while I have been alive, regular folk rarely carries gear to mitigate -40 in the continental US.

The idea with closing down schools is that you can reasonably expect a kid to have to wait outside (in the rural areas) for the bus for 10 mins or so at max. And when you have temps that frostbite can set in at 5-10 mins, you don’t risk kid’s health if you can.

I mean, it is dangerously cold out there. -10, -15 schools are open. -20 to -30, it gets difficult to justify the risk of a kid getting hurt. I can remember twice schools closing for cold, 2014, 2019. (I wasn’t in school for the 80’s one)


#3907

I phrased that poorly. Having gear that deals with “common cold” (you always have some stretch of below at least -10 in MT) goes a long way in dealing a serious (but short) cold snap.


#3908

This is true, breaking out the long underwear, scarf and heavy gloves for this one. Even with all of our typical cold weather gear helps with -40 (it only got to -25 last night) but not enough to make it too much safer, and public schools can’t expect all of the kids to have parents that invest in the correct warm weather gear.

I was surprised the local schools closed, but it is also surprisingly cold out right now.